Collections not showing up
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 2:15:34 PM
I read the thread that has been closed (because there are no bugs???). This morning I was missing 2 collections in my public storefront -- not just 0 products the collections do NOT show up at all. After clearing cache, restarting etc -- I decided to give Zazzle some time thinking it was a technical issue or glitch that would fix itself.

This has never been an issue in the past when I added a new collection or new products.

Six hours later, I am now missing 3 collections!

I'm using Chrome, Windows 10.

Hope this gets fixed soon!
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 2:56:33 PM
Can you provide us with links to the missing collections?
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:17:58 PM
I haven't read that other discussion thread lately, but I am sure that someone (or multiple someones) mentioned that the collection will not be publicly visible for a short duration of time after you add products to it. This appears to be the case with your "missing" collections. I'd suggest giving it about 24 hours for newly created products to be indexed, and for your updates to be indexed.
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 5:01:15 PM
Scott wrote:
I haven't read that other discussion thread lately, but I am sure that someone (or multiple someones) mentioned that the collection will not be publicly visible for a short duration of time after you add products to it. This appears to be the case with your "missing" collections. I'd suggest giving it about 24 hours for newly created products to be indexed, and for your updates to be indexed.


I have a couple I am waiting on myself to be re-indexed after making changes as well as adding in products. I know they will re-appear in due time, so this post isn't a complaint. Just supporting the statement.
Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:37:27 AM
Scott wrote:
I haven't read that other discussion thread lately, but I am sure that someone (or multiple someones) mentioned that the collection will not be publicly visible for a short duration of time after you add products to it. This appears to be the case with your "missing" collections. I'd suggest giving it about 24 hours for newly created products to be indexed, and for your updates to be indexed.


Scott -- I worked on trying to figure this out for three days before I got to this forum with my problem. I think there is still something quirky about how it works. All my collections were showing this moring. However, after I posted new products to 3 of the collections, I have 3 collections missing and they are not the same ones I posted to --

Posted to this moring --

Lovely Gardenia https://www.zazzle.com/collections/lovely_gardenia-119992427721495617

Black | White https://www.zazzle.com/collections/black_white-119593404842903467

Accessories | Gifts https://www.zazzle.com/collections/accessories_gifts-119700439409016226

Lovely Gardenia is the new collection (created over the weekend) and it is showing up both on the profile and store front page.

Black | White is a collection that I've had for some time -- and posted new products to and it is also showing up on both profile and store front.

Missing --

Accessories | Gifts is not showing up on store front.

Red Red Roses https://www.zazzle.com/collections/red_red_roses-119077012059498232

Red Red Roses has not been posted to recently but it is also not showing up on the store front.

Cosmos Charm - Bath https://www.zazzle.com/collections/cosmos_charm_bed_bath-119799467987109429

Cosmos Charm -Bath has not been posted to in a week or so and is now not showing on the store front.

So waiting 24 hours for things to "show up" doesn't exactly resolve the problem.

It's confusing and frustrating. Not only are these missing but they are out of order when they do show up. Currently, I only have 26 Collections -- so I can tell when something isn't showing up or the order has changed.

I'm sure we will all be very grateful if you can figure out what's happening and fix it.

Thank you.




Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:00:29 PM
Nancy Worrell wrote:

Missing --

Accessories | Gifts is not showing up on store front.
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses https://www.zazzle.com/collections/red_red_roses-119077012059498232
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses has not been posted to recently but it is also not showing up on the store front.

Cosmos Charm - Bath https://www.zazzle.com/collections/cosmos_charm_bed_bath-119799467987109429
Last updated June 12

Cosmos Charm -Bath has not been posted to in a week or so and is now not showing on the store front.

So waiting 24 hours for things to "show up" doesn't exactly resolve the problem.
Today is June 12. So these collections were modified today. I am not sure what was updated about them, but they were updated and so they'll require a reindexing before they're publicly visible again.

I am sorry that this wasn't made more clear. I agree that things aren't perfect right now. Hopefully in the future we can improve on the way things are working. Until that happens just know that if you modify a collection (change the product ordering, change the banner image, etc) then keep in mind that they will not be publicly visible for a short period of time.
Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:46:18 PM
Scott wrote:
Nancy Worrell wrote:

Missing --

Accessories | Gifts is not showing up on store front.
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses https://www.zazzle.com/collections/red_red_roses-119077012059498232
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses has not been posted to recently but it is also not showing up on the store front.

Cosmos Charm - Bath https://www.zazzle.com/collections/cosmos_charm_bed_bath-119799467987109429
Last updated June 12

Cosmos Charm -Bath has not been posted to in a week or so and is now not showing on the store front.

So waiting 24 hours for things to "show up" doesn't exactly resolve the problem.
Today is June 12. So these collections were modified today. I am not sure what was updated about them, but they were updated and so they'll require a reindexing before they're publicly visible again.

I am sorry that this wasn't made more clear. I agree that things aren't perfect right now. Hopefully in the future we can improve on the way things are working. Until that happens just know that if you modify a collection (change the product ordering, change the banner image, etc) then keep in mind that they will not be publicly visible for a short period of time.


They do seem to re-indexing faster now, for me anyway.
Posted: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 6:15:35 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:


They do seem to re-indexing faster now, for me anyway.


Mine have shown back up (I added in products on some and did description editing on another), so I agree with you.

Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2019 9:17:45 AM
Scott wrote:
Nancy Worrell wrote:

Missing --

Accessories | Gifts is not showing up on store front.
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses https://www.zazzle.com/collections/red_red_roses-119077012059498232
Last updated June 12

Red Red Roses has not been posted to recently but it is also not showing up on the store front.

Cosmos Charm - Bath https://www.zazzle.com/collections/cosmos_charm_bed_bath-119799467987109429
Last updated June 12

Cosmos Charm -Bath has not been posted to in a week or so and is now not showing on the store front.

So waiting 24 hours for things to "show up" doesn't exactly resolve the problem.
Today is June 12. So these collections were modified today. I am not sure what was updated about them, but they were updated and so they'll require a reindexing before they're publicly visible again.

I am sorry that this wasn't made more clear. I agree that things aren't perfect right now. Hopefully in the future we can improve on the way things are working. Until that happens just know that if you modify a collection (change the product ordering, change the banner image, etc) then keep in mind that they will not be publicly visible for a short period of time.


Thank you for the response. I'm just trying to understand how this works -- and just doesn't seem to be consistent.

Okay -- it's been 24 hours since I worked on my Zazzle store. Still 3 collections missing.

I get that things get re-indexed because of changes and that it takes time -- maybe more than the 24 hours suggested.

But I still have questions --

What other kinds of changes require reindexing? I see that you said that I changed something in Red Red Roses and Cosmos Charm bath -- and I have no idea what it may have been except for rearranging the order of collections or products. Of course, I guess that might fall under needing to be re-indexed. What about adding/deleting tags? Correcting typo's in descriptions?

What I really don't understand is why Lovely Gardenia and Black |White are showing up when they are the two collections that I specifically made numerous changes to on June 12. They apparentently have not been re-indexed because the new products I added have not been added to the collections. So when will they be reindexed?

As I said I'm confused and frustrated. So no work today on Zazzle. I don't want to confuse the issue further. Will check back in tomorrow to see if things are reindexed.


Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2019 10:36:47 AM
Quote:
and I have no idea what it may have been except for rearranging the order of collections or products. Of course, I guess that might fall under needing to be re-indexed. What about adding/deleting tags? Correcting typo's in descriptions?
Yep and yep and yep.

Making any changes at all to your collections will probably require a reindex.
Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 11:12:20 AM
Yay! My collections are back! Was this an unusually long time for re-indexing? What is the schedule for re-indexing? If this is the norm, how do you pro's deal with it? I'm not sure I want to post anything today if it's going to take until next week to be re-indexed. It seems to me that the only way to be seen is to be sure everything is available on weekends. Any suggestions to managing this better is appreciated.

And thank you Scott for your patience in answering my questions.
Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 6:30:04 PM
Nancy Worrell wrote:
Yay! My collections are back! Was this an unusually long time for re-indexing? What is the schedule for re-indexing? If this is the norm, how do you pro's deal with it? I'm not sure I want to post anything today if it's going to take until next week to be re-indexed. It seems to me that the only way to be seen is to be sure everything is available on weekends. Any suggestions to managing this better is appreciated.


It's been the norm for a while now. Seems this started sometime last fall or late summer. Can't remember for sure now. Supposedly it can take up to 24 hours to reindex but seems like many times it takes much longer. One never knows anymore. Just carry on as normal, as there's nothing else you can do, really.
Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2019 8:57:01 AM
Karen Coffelt wrote:
Nancy Worrell wrote:
Yay! My collections are back! Was this an unusually long time for re-indexing? What is the schedule for re-indexing? If this is the norm, how do you pro's deal with it? I'm not sure I want to post anything today if it's going to take until next week to be re-indexed. It seems to me that the only way to be seen is to be sure everything is available on weekends. Any suggestions to managing this better is appreciated.


It's been the norm for a while now. Seems this started sometime last fall or late summer. Can't remember for sure now. Supposedly it can take up to 24 hours to reindex but seems like many times it takes much longer. One never knows anymore. Just carry on as normal, as there's nothing else you can do, really.


Karen -- thanks for the info.
Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2019 8:23:36 PM
Nancy Worrell wrote:
[quote=Karen Coffelt][quote=Nancy Worrell]

Karen -- thanks for the info.


You're welcome.Smile
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