Is sharing Zazzle items to Pinterest worth the effort?
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:33:21 AM
I have been wondering for a long time if it is worth the effort to share Zazzle (both your own and others) to Pinterest.

Does it really bring in more buyers?

I have pinned my own Zazzle products as well as those from others but never sell any as a Referral; just my own products, so I suppose those sales do not come from Pinterest.

What are your experiences??
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:05:51 PM
ronwan wrote:
I have been wondering for a long time if it is worth the effort to share Zazzle (both your own and others) to Pinterest.

Does it really bring in more buyers?

I have pinned my own Zazzle products as well as those from others but never sell any as a Referral; just my own products, so I suppose those sales do not come from Pinterest.

What are your experiences??


I have a pin of a clock that sells regularly, at least once or twice a month.

Yes, well worth it Grin 3-5 bucks, every time, depending on the upgrades.
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:38:30 PM
ronwan wrote:
I have been wondering for a long time if it is worth the effort to share Zazzle (both your own and others) to Pinterest.

Does it really bring in more buyers?

I have pinned my own Zazzle products as well as those from others but never sell any as a Referral; just my own products, so I suppose those sales do not come from Pinterest.

What are your experiences??


Any of your sales could have started at Pinterest. There are a plethora of ways that the referral id can be lost before purchase.

If your target audience is really in tune with what you produce or promote you will make more referrals. If your just growing your audience or only have say 100 referral pins out there then sales will be little to none.

A vague rule of thumb I've seen somewhere is that it takes about 1000 referral links back to Zazzle to make a sale. This means that you need many thousand pins to begin making sales. Unless you have a great, semi large audience that follows you.

When it was easy to promote to Pintrest from Zazzle, I hand picked many thousand products to promote. I did/do get referrals. Now that promoting in my preferred method has become difficult, I am trying auto pinners. So the jury is out on how much they help.

But the general principle would be that if you put tens of thousands of pins on Pinterest then the referrals will start coming. It's just a numbers game at some point. You just have to be able to do it without getting in trouble with Pinterest. If they think your a spammer, your done.

Now if you don;t share at all on Pinterest, well, you definately will not get referrals from there.

Sorry for such a long answer. I hope it helps. I personally believe in the power of Pinterest.

Cheers

Smile
Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 12:48:45 AM
@PacifierCity and RGebbiePhoto: thanks for the replies and useful info.

Just 1 more question; when you're pinning either your own items to Pinterest or those of others, do you simply use the Pinterest button on the page of the Zazzle-object so you cannot add text and keywords to the description?

Or do you create pins from scratch, upload the picture, create a description etc?

If have read that creating a pin from scratch works better because of the keywords you can add and so on, but it is a lot more work of course.

Thanks.
Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 2:17:46 AM
There seems to be a "freshness" factor, from what I've read, that the keywords we add remain good for only a certain amount of time and then they fall to the wayside. I don't know if this is actually true because the information on the internet is often opinion, not fact.

I've gotten a few referrals out of Pinterest, but none in quite a while. They seem to have changed something, though I'm not sure what it is. Or is the real problem that Pinterest has grown to such huge proportions that it's difficult to get noticed?

Does having a business account help? I've no idea. Mine is set up as a business, but I've yet to see the benefit. I think we used to get more leeway in advertising our goods, but do we now? I've no idea. Pinterest is a mystery.
Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 6:46:27 AM
ronwan wrote:
@PacifierCity and RGebbiePhoto: thanks for the replies and useful info.

Just 1 more question; when you're pinning either your own items to Pinterest or those of others, do you simply use the Pinterest button on the page of the Zazzle-object so you cannot add text and keywords to the description?

Or do you create pins from scratch, upload the picture, create a description etc?

If have read that creating a pin from scratch works better because of the keywords you can add and so on, but it is a lot more work of course.

Thanks.


I don't know if you are in Amsterdam in the Netherlands or just a town named Amsterdam. But in the US. If you Affiliate Market, promote others products, you are supposed to make that known. Generally the way to do so was to add #affiliate, or something similar to a pins description.

Not being able to add a description when using the Pinterest button under a product is new behavior. It makes properly promoting using the Pinterest share buttons on Zazzle pointless if one wishes to properly Affiliate Market.

So the best way to promote would be to create a new pin through Pinterest. There are options on how to do this. Creating from their website, or using a browser button.

Many people use Pinterests browser button to create pins. I am very anti track me, and haven't done through research, but believe that by using it Pinterest gets some of my browsing data.

In the Zazzle Tools section there is a tool developed by a fellow Zazzler called Nifty. I am currently exploring it so can not give proper feedback on it yet. Many here do use it and stand firmly behind it. The person who created it is also very friendly and helpful.

Promoting Zazzle products properly has become very difficult, in my opinion. It is sad. There was a time you could promote right off someones product page, add a description and properly # all in a very short time frame. Now it takes at least 10 times longer for each product. I know that my promoting efforts here has diminished considerably. It is bad for me and bad for Zazzle.

As I noted above, I am exploring new methods as Zazzle does give a higher rate than many for Affiliate Marketing.

Hope that helps.
Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 6:59:02 AM
I am from Amsterdam in the Netherlands.

It is certainly helpful.
Pity that promoting Zazzle items the proper way have become so time consuming.

Thanks for all the info.
Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:48:51 AM
When adding to Pinterest, I add using the share buttons and then go in and edit the note on the pin. As far as I can tell, my pins look exactly the same after the note edit as they did when the share button worked. The title is already filled out in the notes when I go in to edit. Does someone know anything to the contrary? I don't want to waste my time if adding hashtags to the notes doesn't work.
Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:46:45 AM
natureinfocus wrote:
When adding to Pinterest, I add using the share buttons and then go in and edit the note on the pin. As far as I can tell, my pins look exactly the same after the note edit as they did when the share button worked. The title is already filled out in the notes when I go in to edit. Does someone know anything to the contrary? I don't want to waste my time if adding hashtags to the notes doesn't work.


It is a good question and hard to know for sure. There is a lack of information from Pinterest on the subject.

I know that I have read in the past that editing a pin is basically pointless. Just create a new pin. I was doing what you describe, but then really wondered about it. The pin is new the moment it is created. So even if I edit it moments later... How does Pinterest see that... I don't know. But I decided that I want all the info added the moment the pin is created.

I don't know why the change happened. I think it has to do with the fact that all our stores are subdomains to Zazzle. The other POD's I use don't have the same ease of sharing to Pinterest so I can't tell if this was a Pinterest decision or a Zazzle decision.

There is another thread going about not being able to add Pinterest descriptions that describes this new behavior. There has been no response from Zazzle about it.

So we have been left guessing. If anyone or Zazzle knows different I would love to hear from you. This change seriously damaged the workflow that I used to use. I am adapting and changing because of it but am not nearly as excited about promoting for Zazzle as I used to be. So sad.

So if you're in the know, please share.
Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:36:48 AM
You'll find most of the Google images pages are filled with Pinterest posts, so yeah, it's worth it even if you don't get direct hits from your own pins. Can't be sold if you can't get seen.
Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 10:00:51 AM
PacifierCity wrote:


There is another thread going about not being able to add Pinterest descriptions that describes this new behavior. There has been no response from Zazzle about it.

So we have been left guessing. If anyone or Zazzle knows different I would love to hear from you. This change seriously damaged the workflow that I used to use. I am adapting and changing because of it but am not nearly as excited about promoting for Zazzle as I used to be. So sad.

So if you're in the know, please share.


The issue you have posted here is not a Zazzle issue but one in Pinterest. That information is one other designers and myself have gotten from Pinterest. Emails from Pinterest have been posted confirms this in other Zazzle Tech threads.

The best and easiest way to pin to Pinterest from your product page is to use Pinterest's Pin It button. It is an add on from Pinterest to give you a Pin It button to your browser.

If you are using Mark's Nifty Tool, there is no need to worry about it.
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 2:06:08 PM
@Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve:


When I use the Pinterest Chrome extension to pin an item from Zazzle to Pinterest my Zazzle ref-id is not added to the url.
It doesn't show when i hoover over the saved image.
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:51:34 PM
ronwan wrote:
@Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve:


When I use the Pinterest Chrome extension to pin an item from Zazzle to Pinterest my Zazzle ref-id is not added to the url.
It doesn't show when i hoover over the saved image.

Shocked Are you telling me all the stuff I posted on Pinterest since this whole no notes thing started are not going to earn me referrals????? Shocked
Guess I will stop promoting then.
Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:48:02 PM
ronwan wrote:
@Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve:


When I use the Pinterest Chrome extension to pin an item from Zazzle to Pinterest my Zazzle ref-id is not added to the url.
It doesn't show when i hoover over the saved image.


Are you a member of the Promoter's Program?

If not give me a link of one of your products pinned on Pinterest and I'll see what I find.

randysgrandma perhaps before you stop promoting we find out if it is a problem. Why panic if you don't have enough information to make an informed decision?
Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:17:06 PM
randysgrandma wrote:
ronwan wrote:
@Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve:


When I use the Pinterest Chrome extension to pin an item from Zazzle to Pinterest my Zazzle ref-id is not added to the url.
It doesn't show when i hoover over the saved image.

Shocked Are you telling me all the stuff I posted on Pinterest since this whole no notes thing started are not going to earn me referrals????? Shocked
Guess I will stop promoting then.


I just went to your pinterest page and hovered on the Zazzle links. I can see your referral id.


when you hover over the pin it only shows you the pinterest url but if you will hover over the part that says "Zazzle.com" then it will show you the Zazzle link and your rf=xxxxxx will be there.

hope that helps.
Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:36:06 PM
Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve wrote:
ronwan wrote:
@Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve:


When I use the Pinterest Chrome extension to pin an item from Zazzle to Pinterest my Zazzle ref-id is not added to the url.
It doesn't show when i hoover over the saved image.


Are you a member of the Promoter's Program?

If not give me a link of one of your products pinned on Pinterest and I'll see what I find.

randysgrandma perhaps before you stop promoting we find out if it is a problem. Why panic if you don't have enough information to make an informed decision?


I was tired last night when I posted.
Today I checked some of my pins and the majority of my pins using the Pinterest app on my taskbar did carry the referral ID.
I am not sure why a few didn't and I'm not even 100% sure what route I took to pin them. I simple deleted the few that didn't and repinned them.
Granted, I didn't take the time to check them all, when the majority did show the referral code, I stopped looking.
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