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Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:19:06 PM
A couple of weeks ago, I posted here saying my Pinterest numbers had plummeted under their new algorithm from 100k to just under 20k. I included what I was doing and asked for ideas to get my numbers back up. Then I remembered the last few times I posted something similar, very few people were willing to share their tips. So I deleted that post and set out to fix my numbers.

In those 2 weeks, I went from 20k views per month to more than 200k. This post is based on my experience since I first started with Pinterest (when they were launched) + the last 2 weeks.

What is Pinterest?
If you search "Pinterest," their meta description (the snippet in the search engine) is:
Discover recipes, home ideas, style inspiration and other ideas to try.

They don't aspire to be the biggest marketplace in the world. They're not about shopping. Your Products are welcome, but don't be surprised when they're repinned to someone's "Craft Ideas" and "Sewing Projects" Boards. (Don't be alarmed either - every repin is exposure for your Product and a potential click + purchase!)

Even so, there are many users pinning craft ideas they'll never do. They have no time or no talent or are matching a collage they saw in a magazine. That's where we come in with our Products.

Why should you care?
Pinterest has reached 200 million monthly active users as of September 2017, per Wikipedia. Their Boards are among the best Google-indexed content on the Web.

What should you do?

I can't tell you what to do, but here's the list of 'rules' (okay, 'guidelines') I made for myself, after some trial and error.

Don't be too specific
- "Pillows" is better than "Boho Wedding Pillows"
- Don't limit yourself to just Zazzle products
- Mingle DIY Pins in with your products
- If your products are for DIY projects (fabric, paper, etc.), PIN THEM!

Use Your Words for SEO
- Add descriptions to PINS + BOARDS
- Use all characters for titles
- Choose a "what's this board about" for Boards
- If you want to repin something with no Description, add one

Invite collaborators
- They keep your board active, even when you take a break
- Pinterest brought back the "Like" button! Use it (it encourages Collaborators to Pin more)
- Don't make too many rules (ironic, considering the length of this post!)
- The more active your board is, the better
- Amazon, Etsy, CP, and other Pins give a Board variety

Monitor your boards
- Don't permit spam
- Ensure collaborators are posting in the Board's theme
I don't care how many Pins or even if they're just Zazzle Pins on my boards, but the same Design on 15 Pillows? I delete 14, and ask the Collaborator to not do that. If they do it again, I remove them.

Collaborate
- Ask to be on other boards
- Follow their rules

See what's trending
- Search a general term like "pillows" now and then to see what's trending
- Find Zazzle products that match the trend and pin them (even better, if they happen to be yours!)

Don't just sell
- Have selling Boards + ideas mixed in (Z pillows + décor ideas)
- Have interest Boards (dogs, sewing, whatever) with or without selling
- Have Boards that you just enjoy without even thinking about selling
It gets your views up, and that means your selling Pins get more exposure. Plus it's just fun!

Pin daily
- Equal mix of DIY or ideas or recipes + selling
- Use hashtags
- Copy the Product Description into your Pin (yours or affiliating)
- Don't be afraid to Pin the same product 2 or 3 weeks later
- Pin 20-40 Z Products a day (mix of automation + manual)

Pin from the top down
- List your Boards + number of followers for each Board
- Pin your Products to the most appropriate board with the most followers first
Example:
• Dogs Board 2100 followers
• Cats Board 100 followers
• Horses Board 75 followers
• Blue Board 50 followers
• Red Board 25 followers

- Blue Raining Cats and Dogs Pillow goes on your DOG Board first
- Blue Cat Pillow goes on your Cat Board first
- Blue Horses Pillow goes on your Horses Board first
- Red and Blue Geometric Pillow goes on your Blue Board first


Diversify Pins
- Every Board gets attention through the week

Delete Stale Boards
- Good idea Board with one Pin gets deleted
Seems better to have fewer active Boards than many Boards

Don't compete with yourself
- I don't repin my competition or anything I can affiliate. So if another user has Pillows from Etsy, I don't repin (no matter how cute) – but I find something of my own or another Zazzler's that I can Pin (because it's somewhat popular, if it's in my feed, so I want to get in on that trend).
- If another user pins hand-painted reclaimed wood signs, I'll repin, and I do try to support Etsy small businesses. Just not competitors. ;)

Watch what works
- Look at your Analytics (Business Account only, probably?) and do more of what get's clicks
-- Analytics proves it's not about your FOLLOWERS, but about your PINS
- Look at your Notifications
-- Pin more of those items being repined
-- "Like" when someone tries your Pin
"Liking" is for people who don't want to socialize. ;)

Now what to do with this info?

Here's a quick list of ideas that work with Pinterest + Zazzle. Repin other's Pins that are about DIY, collages, etc., and mix them in with these Z Products.

Recipe Boards
- Cooking/recipe Binders
- Recipe Postcards
- Mason Jars (with drink recipes on them)
- Labels/ Stickers

Décor Boards
- All décor
- Redecorating planning notebooks
- Invitations/Postcards with miniature "color boards" + inspiration images
-- Color boards are really popular. Repin somone's and then pin 3 or 4 products that match the colors in the board.

Fashion Boards
- Nail Wraps
- Jewelry
- Clothing

Sewing Boards
- Fabric PLUS FABRIC PRODUCTS
Create a Pillow, for example, and then make matching fabric. Pin them both, side by side. Some will want to sew; some will want to buy a finished Pillow.
-- All-over-print Shirts
-- Fabric bags, All-over-print Totes
-- Tablecloths
-- Table Runners
-- You get the idea

Final thoughts

I have no evidence this works, but… I say don't tag Zazzle on every single Pin and don't over use #ZazzleMade. I do it only on those Pins I think are standouts. Okay… it hasn't actually worked yet. But I have faith they'll find something they love!

I've learned that my number of FOLLOWERS on my Profile or my Boards don't seem all that important. The reason I Pin "from the top down" is that those Pins on Boards with the most followers have a better chance to be seen, not by followers, but in the primary Pinterest feed. The more active a BOARD, the more chance for the PIN to be seen.

Oh - most important. This post is long, but I don't spend more than 20-30 minutes a day on Pinterest. Unless I'm looking for inspiration. Or a recipe.
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If you try any of these things, I'd love to hear what worked for you!
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:07:01 PM
This is great! Thank you for posting!
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:29:45 PM
Wow! I clearly need to step up my pinterest game!
Thanks for the tips!
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:42:42 PM
RoyK, I never saw your original thread, so I'm glad you've resurrected and revamped it. I've realized over time the things you've pointed out, but one extremely important thing I didn't know is what you said right at the top:

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What is Pinterest?
If you search "Pinterest," their meta description (the snippet in the search engine) is:
Discover recipes, home ideas, style inspiration and other ideas to try.


As soon as I read it, I all but gave myself a dope slap because there were clues to this all along that I never picked up on, most evident in the pins of mine that have been repinned the most: DIY projects. Not only that, but when I wander through Pinterest, what am I looking for? DIY projects and recipes.

Thank you.
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:15:21 PM
Thanks RoyK for this . I try and pinterest but am on a limited bandwidth and it always worries me that I'll use more than I have. But that's no excuse not to at least try.

Cheers!

SaraHRoses Love
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:20:02 PM
@Elizabeth - Thanks, for saying so; you're welcome!

@Lora - You're welcome too!

@Colorwash - YES! They've always been "IDEA Boards." I had 100k just pinning the things I love to do when I'm unplugged. Now I have 200k connecting what I love with what I sell. Win. ;)

I think it's the perfect "social" media for people who don't really want to socialize.

Also, I truly believe that diversified pinning will get more quality clicks than spamming 2000 Zazzle Affiliate Pins a day. I've seen those accounts, with my Products pinned 5 times (in a row) even. They may 'work,' but I've never seen those Tracking Codes in my sales history.

Now if Collections would just get back to normal, I could pick up where I left off and make use of that audience...
Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:31:42 PM
mothersdaisy wrote:
Thanks RoyK for this . I try and pinterest but am on a limited bandwidth and it always worries me that I'll use more than I have. But that's no excuse not to at least try.

Cheers!

SaraHRoses Love

You're welcome!

Consider looking at an automated option, like IFTTT, that works on RSS Feeds. If you pull a Feed using, say, a specific Tag, you wouldn't have to actually do the pinning yourself. When you Publish a Product with a specific Tag, it goes to the Feed, and when the Feed updates (the Product(s) are indexed), that Product is posted to Pinterest.

- Only pull from your own Store to control what's pinned/prevent spam
- Once the Pins are placed on Pinterest, you can edit them for hashtags, move them to other Boards, etc.

That might save you bandwidth.

I caution, though, to not get over-enthusiastic with this method. I don't know Pinterest's or Zazzle's volume threshold for classifying something spam or violating ToS. Up to 40 Pins a day should be safe? Actually, HightonRidley might be able to answer that. nIFTTTy uses IFTTT feeds, if I'm not mistaken (thus, the name 'nIFTTTy').
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:09:34 AM
RoyK_is_a_She wrote:
mothersdaisy wrote:
Thanks RoyK for this . I try and pinterest but am on a limited bandwidth and it always worries me that I'll use more than I have. But that's no excuse not to at least try.

Cheers!

SaraHRoses Love

You're welcome!

Consider looking at an automated option, like IFTTT, that works on RSS Feeds. If you pull a Feed using, say, a specific Tag, you wouldn't have to actually do the pinning yourself. When you Publish a Product with a specific Tag, it goes to the Feed, and when the Feed updates (the Product(s) are indexed), that Product is posted to Pinterest.

- Only pull from your own Store to control what's pinned/prevent spam
- Once the Pins are placed on Pinterest, you can edit them for hashtags, move them to other Boards, etc.

That might save you bandwidth.

I caution, though, to not get over-enthusiastic with this method. I don't know Pinterest's or Zazzle's volume threshold for classifying something spam or violating ToS. Up to 40 Pins a day should be safe? Actually, HightonRidley might be able to answer that. nIFTTTy uses IFTTT feeds, if I'm not mistaken (thus, the name 'nIFTTTy').


Smashing! Thanks - I love your posts - You're very helpful! Cheers!
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:48:15 AM
mothersdaisy wrote:
Smashing! Thanks - I love your posts - You're very helpful! Cheers!

Aww! Thanks for saying so! Love
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:16:12 AM
In response to RoyK's opening post and covering some of the questions arising later in the thread, here's my ha'penny's worth.
All that follows is based on personal experience and experiences shared by others in the Nifty Tools Facebook group

There are two main types of Pinterest use by us as Zazzlers:
Type A - You want to get some increased exposure/visibility for (each of) your store's products.
Type B - As per Type A but you also want to regularly earn referral income, i.e. you have a leaning towards being a true affiliate in addition to being a Zazzler.

I suspect that most reading this are Type A
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Recommendations
Based on my experiences and those of others in the Facebook group:
Type A Zazzlers
You should have a business account on Pinterest. If you've got a personal one, one or two pins of your designs per day shouldn't really be a bother. More than that and you must have a business account. Get one right from the outset or change to one now.
Pinning manually is fine for you. Speed things up hugely with Nifty and its streamlined Pinning tool and get back to designing much more quickly! Follow the guidance given already by RoyK.

Type B wannabees

You must have a Pinterest business account. Use the nIFTTTy Scheduler to automate. For your source of pins, use any combination of:
o Yours and other's collections
o Brand stores
o Stores of well-known and popular artists
o Stores of successful sellers
o Stores filled with designs you love (and others will, too)
o Stores of niche designers for your equivalent niche boards

When you pin:
o Pin by theme
o Pay attention to national / international holidays
o Do some repinning as advised by others in this topic
o Pin at least 50 per day. See next section about spamming.
o Include design theme used and date pinned in your tracking codes so you can track successes even better


While pulling from the marketplace is broken in Zazzle's rss feed mechanism, use the nIFTTTy Pid scheduler in place of the regular one to schedule pins from the marketplace.

Spamming?
I probably pin more than most Zazzlers, mostly automatically with the nIFTTTy Scheduler. I've never had an issue with the number of pins I make and have been in contact with Pinterest about my business account on a good few occasions. Pinterest itself keeps telling me to pin more - though that might just be a generic message everyone gets.
All my pins use a proper description and title taken from the product and include relevant hashtags (supplied by each IFTTT nIFTTTy-based applet). This is a must to stay in Pinterest's good books.

Being realistic
Unless you're a well known artist with a loyal following or your solely pinning their work, these figures should largely apply to you:

There's roughly a 2 to 3 month time lag between pinning and making a referral sale.

Between 7/16/2018 and 8/14/2018 I made 30 referral sales on 11 orders from Pinterest. In that same time period I averaged 33000 daily viewers on Pinterest. So very roughly, that's 1 referral sale per 33000 viewers. Note that all of the pins that gave me referral commission were from more than 6 weeks ago and some were from many months ago.

Just how many daily pins you need in order to get that sort of number of daily viewers (and hence regular and frequent referrals) depends hugely on:
o The type of designs you're pinning
o How popular they are
o How seasonally timely they are
o How your boards are organised
o How Pinterest decides to show your stuff in other people's feeds
Based on my experience, you're talking about many more than a few handfuls of pins per day.

And you can't do that manually. So if you're serious about earning referrals on Pinterest (ie you're a Type B), then you absolutely have to use the nIFTTTy Scheduler - I know of no other tool currently that automates pinning of Zazzle products to help you reach that number of daily viewers.
Note that you're limited to 120 pins per day using the nIFTTTy scheduler and there are other Zazzlers happily making multiple referral sales per month with it.

If you want evidence, join the Nifty Tools Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/581280082075739




Why do I seem to be pushing Nifty and its nIFTTTy Schedulers?

Right off the bat, I'll be clear - I built them primarily to meet my needs. I think I'm a fairly typical Zazzler so they're probably yours, too. I wanted to:
o Take the drudgery out of doing the above
o Allow me to promote in a tiny fraction of the time it would otherwise take
o Make it possible to earn reasonable referral income

So if I'm a fairly typical Zazzler, that's what other Zazzlers want as well, Yes? Well, you can achieve the same....

I started as a Type A and, as I realised the futility of expecting to earn referral income from manual means, I moved to Type B. Of course, to do this I needed the tools (ie the schedulers) to automate things and leverage my time effectively.

All the Nifty tools are free to use
I'm a fair-minded sort of fellow and wanted to level the playing field for both Type A and B peeps who don't have the technical skills to make their own tools. Too often, great artists just can't get recognition and, let's face it, left-brain peeps don't often do right-brain tech stuff well.

To help pay for my server, the one that hosts the Nifty tools, all free versions work on a referral-sharing scheme. Half the time links will be generated with your referral id and half the time mine will be used instead (set by a computer coin-toss).

Once you've proved to yourself it's worthwhile, you can move to a subscription and then your referral id is used all of the time. It's much fairer than in advertising where you don't know in advance if the cost of your advert is going to be covered by the sales it generates. My way makes it risk free.

See the Tools forum for more on Nifty and the nIFTTTy schedulers.

Ask specific questions here or in the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/581280082075739
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:52:09 AM
All good points, and good to know you haven't reached the "spam threshold," Mark!

On this one point, and only because you say "absolutely" and that you know of "no other tool" -
HightonRidley wrote:
So if you're serious about earning referrals on Pinterest (ie you're a Type B), then you absolutely have to use the nIFTTTy Scheduler - I know of no other tool currently that automates pinning of Zazzle products to help you reach that number of daily viewers.

In combination with RSS Feeds, I'm 99% certain IFTTT can hit 120 Pins per day, and will do that many, as long as the RSS Feed-to-Pinterest (or FB or anywhere else) doesn't violate the ToS of the receiving site. I've been holding at 40 for a reason, but I'm sure it can be done.

I don't know if Tailwind and the like can - I don't subscribe - but a lot of the automated tools now are advertising working with RSS Feeds. Have you compared nIFTTTy to any of those? (Curious.)

Just to be clear: I'm not trying to knock your nIFTTTy tool - I'm not familiar with it, so I couldn't even review it, if I wanted to knock it (I don't). In the interest of accurate information, though, I feel like IFTTT should be considered by those able to follow it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:55:48 PM
RoyK_is_a_She wrote:
All good points, and good to know you haven't reached the "spam threshold," Mark!

On this one point, and only because you say "absolutely" and that you know of "no other tool" -
HightonRidley wrote:
So if you're serious about earning referrals on Pinterest (ie you're a Type B), then you absolutely have to use the nIFTTTy Scheduler - I know of no other tool currently that automates pinning of Zazzle products to help you reach that number of daily viewers.

In combination with RSS Feeds, I'm 99% certain IFTTT can hit 120 Pins per day, and will do that many, as long as the RSS Feed-to-Pinterest (or FB or anywhere else) doesn't violate the ToS of the receiving site. I've been holding at 40 for a reason, but I'm sure it can be done.

I don't know of any limitation with IFTTT in how many it can pin. The reason I don't consider IFTTT in conjunction with a Zazzle feed to be a 'proper' automated tool is that it ignores the first bunch of stuff it sees in a feed (at least that's how it used to be) and only responds to new stuff added to the feed. And that means you have to arrange for things to be added to the feed. That makes it manual and not automated.

The nIFTTTy scheduler is a feed used in conjunction with IFTTTT with the special addition that it makes only one item at a time available in the feed. The item made available in the feed depends on the schedule. So IFTTT sees and pins 1 product at a time as per the schedule.
As far as I'm concerned, that's what makes it deserve the term automated. No manual stuff to do once set up until the feed runs out of itmes to present to IFTTT.

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I don't know if Tailwind and the like can - I don't subscribe - but a lot of the automated tools now are advertising working with RSS Feeds. Have you compared nIFTTTy to any of those? (Curious.)

Only Pinterest-approved marketing partners can schedule posts. Many of those tools that work with rss feeds aren't approved. For example, BoardBooster shut down as it wasn't approved. Buffer requires a paid-for plan. Same story for others I've seen. nIFTTTy is fine-tuned for Zazzlers becaue it's made specifically for us by one of us.

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Just to be clear: I'm not trying to knock your nIFTTTy tool - I'm not familiar with it, so I couldn't even review it, if I wanted to knock it (I don't). In the interest of accurate information, though, I feel like IFTTT should be considered by those able to follow it.
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I know you're not Smile
IFTTT is an integral part of nIFTTTy schedules, so I agree
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:37:48 PM
It's a great list packed with good advice! the only thing I saw that I would add, is along with inviting collaborators to your own boards...

Seek and accept invites to collaborate on other boards especially ones that are product friendly and try to get some that are not just Zazzle stuff.

I have several group boards and belong to many Zazzle boards but the ones I pin to the most often are just general shopping and product and art boards and I try to look for ones that do not have a pinning limit and also ones that are not all full of borderline pornography and spam. I like the new sections feature as it seems to be better for targeting a specific audience.

reading your list makes me think I probably don't monitor my group boards enough but I just don't have time... I have two boards that have some extreme pinners ... lol.




Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:56:44 PM
Originally, I belonged to quite a number of group boards, but they ended up driving me nuts because of the daily loooong list of people who'd pinned this, that, and the other thing. I deleted all the group boards and only recently created one for a non-Zazzle theme. Only one other person belongs to it because she's involved in the identical pursuit. Maybe the bad taste I acquired from the mob boards will eventually fade. It's been about a year, and I still cringe at the thought.
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:08:36 PM
I agree about general boards, Shelli. That goes with what I say about mixing it up. I limit my "this THING only" boards to just a couple. (Thinking... it may just be one board.) Mostly I do themed boards and welcome Pins from all over on them.

Notifications have changed a bit, Colorwash. I think you and I got frustrated with that at the same time. Maybe had that convo in the Everything Else Forum? It's not so bad anymore. There ARE notifications of some others' activities; it's not bad. You might consider trying again.

On the Sales/Referrals end of this convo, with 20-40 Pins per day -
- I'm seeing Pinterest traffic with my Pinterest-specific tracking codes to my own website. At that point, users would pick up a different Zazzle Tracking Code, so it gets a little convoluted, but my Analytics are showing Pinterest is generating good traffic.

- I just started getting some Zazzle-direct traction right as Collections broke, but I can track Referrals back to Pinterest too.

Of course, with the whole Referral situation... I'll just let that hang. lol
Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:01:30 PM
Colorwash wrote:
Originally, I belonged to quite a number of group boards, but they ended up driving me nuts because of the daily loooong list of people who'd pinned this, that, and the other thing. I deleted all the group boards and only recently created one for a non-Zazzle theme. Only one other person belongs to it because she's involved in the identical pursuit. Maybe the bad taste I acquired from the mob boards will eventually fade. It's been about a year, and I still cringe at the thought.


my solution for that was and still is... I don't read notifications, I click it every so often to make the red dot go away but that is all.



Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:47:37 AM
Maybe, but only maybe, I'll give group boards a try again, but I probably won't do it with Zazzle-only boards. They're too incestuous.
Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 9:33:29 AM
HightonRidley wrote:

I don't know of any limitation with IFTTT in how many it can pin. The reason I don't consider IFTTT in conjunction with a Zazzle feed to be a 'proper' automated tool is that it ignores the first bunch of stuff it sees in a feed (at least that's how it used to be) and only responds to new stuff added to the feed. And that means you have to arrange for things to be added to the feed. That makes it manual and not automated.

I use IFTTT with Collections, and I prefer to promote new Designs, so it's not a problem for me - search, sort by Newest, then choose from certain Designers (avoiding the spam). So, for my way/use, it's automated.

On the topic of spam, as mentioned - and not directed at anyone in this conversation; just some thoughts - I don't know the threshold. I haven't seen anything in Z's ToS that specifies what constitutes spammy behavior relative to affiliating on social media sites. I know there's at least one Associate with multiple Pinterest accounts using some sort of automation to pin hundreds, if not thousands, of Z Products a day. It looks like they're pulled from the Marketplace using an RSS Feed based on Tags. If that's okay with Z and Pinterest, then I'm not here to call it 'wrong' - it's just not my style (which may account for my lack of Referrals?).
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In any event, those types of accounts could be pulled at any time for violating, so that's a consideration, if one chooses to go that route. That's why I recommend keeping the numbers lower and choosing shares thoughtfully. "Lower" including nIFTTTY's 120/day.
Posted: Saturday, August 18, 2018 6:52:01 PM
I do a lot of Zazzle pinning (my own and affiliates) on my boards and others.
I have made $0 on referrals. Can this be?! What's going on?
It almost seems like pinning through the SHARE pin button isn't really adding on my referral id. I thought it did that automatically.
Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2018 6:04:00 AM
TerriKJones wrote:
I do a lot of Zazzle pinning (my own and affiliates) on my boards and others.
I have made $0 on referrals. Can this be?! What's going on?
It almost seems like pinning through the SHARE pin button isn't really adding on my referral id. I thought it did that automatically.

If you're logged in, it does add it. I don't share using Z's button, typically, but I've tested it, and it works.

I've recieved Referrals through Pinterest, though they're few and far between.

Our Associate ID cookie can be overwritten under certain circumstances, like most affiliate programs. unlike other programs, Z affiliates for itself, and I believe a good majority of cookies are overwritten when a user signs up for Z's emails and then clicks a link in one those emails - almost all of those email links have Zazzle's "associate" ID in them. The reason I believe it's Z's ID overwriting the majority and not another Associate ID is the majority of my own sales are Z referred.

So we compete against all other Associates AND Zazzle for those Referred Sales.
Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:19:11 PM
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So we compete against all other Associates AND Zazzle for those Referred Sales.


And this ought not to be... The excuse about "industry standards" hogwash we got recently doesn't wash.

Sorry I just had to beat that dead horse one more time!

Rant over.
Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:43:50 PM
RoyK_is_a_She wrote:
TerriKJones wrote:
I do a lot of Zazzle pinning (my own and affiliates) on my boards and others.
I have made $0 on referrals. Can this be?! What's going on?
It almost seems like pinning through the SHARE pin button isn't really adding on my referral id. I thought it did that automatically.

If you're logged in, it does add it. I don't share using Z's button, typically, but I've tested it, and it works.

I've recieved Referrals through Pinterest, though they're few and far between.

Our Associate ID cookie can be overwritten under certain circumstances, like most affiliate programs. unlike other programs, Z affiliates for itself, and I believe a good majority of cookies are overwritten when a user signs up for Z's emails and then clicks a link in one those emails - almost all of those email links have Zazzle's "associate" ID in them. The reason I believe it's Z's ID overwriting the majority and not another Associate ID is the majority of my own sales are Z referred.

So we compete against all other Associates AND Zazzle for those Referred Sales.


Thank you for the explanation. Makes me wonder if I should spend so much time pinning. I may make some affiliate sites and see how that goes... but even then...
Posted: Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:15:58 PM
TerriKJones wrote:
RoyK_is_a_She wrote:
TerriKJones wrote:
I do a lot of Zazzle pinning (my own and affiliates) on my boards and others.
I have made $0 on referrals. Can this be?! What's going on?
It almost seems like pinning through the SHARE pin button isn't really adding on my referral id. I thought it did that automatically.

If you're logged in, it does add it. I don't share using Z's button, typically, but I've tested it, and it works.

I've recieved Referrals through Pinterest, though they're few and far between.

Our Associate ID cookie can be overwritten under certain circumstances, like most affiliate programs. unlike other programs, Z affiliates for itself, and I believe a good majority of cookies are overwritten when a user signs up for Z's emails and then clicks a link in one those emails - almost all of those email links have Zazzle's "associate" ID in them. The reason I believe it's Z's ID overwriting the majority and not another Associate ID is the majority of my own sales are Z referred.

So we compete against all other Associates AND Zazzle for those Referred Sales.


Thank you for the explanation. Makes me wonder if I should spend so much time pinning. I may make some affiliate sites and see how that goes... but even then...


Not going to tell you what to do but I will tell you that the sites I made while fun to create, as far as referrals go, they were a complete waste of time.
Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 3:54:52 AM
RoyK_is_a_She wrote:
The reason I believe it's Z's ID overwriting the majority and not another Associate ID is the majority of my own sales are Z referred.

Something dawned on me when looking at one of Z's promo emails that included, of course, deep discounts on specific products. Customers can be quite savvy, either bookmarking a product they want or placing it in their shopping cart, and then waiting for the right promo to show up, which they click through on and then proceed to buy. I've seen it happen when our views were working correctly, a product being viewed a couple times but not purchased, and then a promo shows up and the product is is immediately bought.

Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:32:01 AM
Wow, lots of good info, RoyK and Mark! Thanks. I need to work on my Pinterest.

BTW, just noticed that our stores have share buttons for social media now (except Colorwash - how do you rate, Barbara?) where there used to be links for our social media.

If you want to go to someone's link now, you have to go to their About page and look at the list.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, just a change.
Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:37:37 AM
Beachwalker wrote:
except Colorwash - how do you rate, Barbara?

I just checked and noticed buttons. Maybe you didn't pay the secret entrance fee. Grin
Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 11:43:19 AM
Colorwash wrote:
Beachwalker wrote:
except Colorwash - how do you rate, Barbara?

I just checked and noticed buttons. Maybe you didn't pay the secret entrance fee. Grin


Darn! That's what I get for jumping over the turnstile again!Laughing
Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 1:24:04 PM
You mustn't do that. You could fall down, get your legs tangled in the arms, and have to be extricated by the authorities.
Posted: Monday, August 20, 2018 1:47:18 PM
Is that the voice of experience? I'll behave better in the future. Or I'll try anyway. Smile
Posted: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 4:18:50 AM
Beachwalker wrote:
Is that the voice of experience? I'll behave better in the future. Or I'll try anyway. Smile

I just know these things.
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