Who is this Guest? 2 pages: [1] 2
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 2:26:21 PM
There has been a guest stalking the forums for quite a while now. Is that someone trying to steal our designs? Why wouldn't all legitimate forum users be logged in?

I just shared many many items, now I'm concerned I shouldn't have. Who do we report this to?

Thanks
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:52:20 PM
SK DesignWorks wrote:
There has been a guest stalking the forums for quite a while now. Is that someone trying to steal our designs? Why wouldn't all legitimate forum users be logged in?

I just shared many many items, now I'm concerned I shouldn't have. Who do we report this to?

Thanks


Just relax. No reason to report. If someone wanted to steal your designs they wouldn't have to come to the forums to get to you. So, on that note, let me say that sometimes I am a Guest. I am legitimate. I just don't always like to read the forums unless I am logged out. I log in when I want to post or when I want to enter the private forums. I was a guest until reading this prompted me to login to post.
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:19:55 PM
I am quite often a guest for the same reasons as Gina. Plus, I homeschool my son and I will open up a forum topic sometimes and need to switch tabs and do something else with him and so it looks like I’m a guest just hanging out for hours.
I think in the show me forum someone looking around for items to pick up for affiliate purposes wouldn’t bother logging in either.
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 6:55:05 PM
I am sometimes the guest too... but there is one "guest" who spams the Affiliate design request thread quite often. I don't know what the purpose of it is or why they do that... but we report them and they go away.

you will know that "guest" is here when you see the Afilliate request section fill up with posts by "guest" that have a quote from someone but no other content.

That is the only forum section that a guest can post to without being logged in.

Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:05:53 PM
SK DesignWorks wrote:
I just shared many many items, now I'm concerned I shouldn't have. Who do we report this to?


There are people on here who are not designers but are here solely to affiliate market... as in promote your products to help you make a sell and make a little money for themselves. Mainly the later, but in the end... does it matter? You've made a sale!

It's free promotion so I welcome it! They can post my products wherever, whenever! Most of my sales are from 3rd Party referrals so I'm guessing some of that is some random stranger promoting my items. Roses

The more eyes on my products, the better.
Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:56:37 PM
I'm a "Guest" a lot of the times too. I'm only logged in on the forum if I'm going to post on the forum or I'm working on my store
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:25:04 AM
I'm a guest 2 to 6 hours a month, more or less 5 to 15 mins a day adds up. Just checking if a new product was added, looking for promoter, basicly reading and staying informed.

Adding 10 sec for logging in would add time, to a short break.

Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:20:08 PM
lol
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 3:00:26 PM
Thank you all! I feel better. I'm just getting used to all this. Sometimes I'll ask a dumb question. I apologize in advance, if it is offensive. I absolutely don't mean it to be. I just didn't understand.Grin

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.

I welcome any affiliate promotion help, in fact I cherish it! Love

Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 3:44:58 PM
SK DesignWorks wrote:

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.


The "Spammer Guest" is a nuisance, but gets reported each, and every time, S/He posts.
I'm not sure how a Public Forum is considered a sensitive area *shrugs*
Just curious as to how you came to that conclusion?
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 4:36:57 PM
Gina ©gleem wrote:
SK DesignWorks wrote:

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.


The "Spammer Guest" is a nuisance, but gets reported each, and every time, S/He posts.
I'm not sure how a Public Forum is considered a sensitive area *shrugs*
Just curious as to how you came to that conclusion?

When a person doesn't yet know all the ins and outs, experiences they may have had before can cause misinterpretation. That's likely what happened to SK. Very understandable.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 4:46:15 PM
Colorwash wrote:
Gina ©gleem wrote:
SK DesignWorks wrote:

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.


The "Spammer Guest" is a nuisance, but gets reported each, and every time, S/He posts.
I'm not sure how a Public Forum is considered a sensitive area *shrugs*
Just curious as to how you came to that conclusion?

When a person doesn't yet know all the ins and outs, experiences they may have had before can cause misinterpretation. That's likely what happened to SK. Very understandable.


That's why I'm curious.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:07:11 PM
SK DesignWorks wrote:
Thank you all! I feel better. I'm just getting used to all this. Sometimes I'll ask a dumb question. I apologize in advance, if it is offensive. I absolutely don't mean it to be. I just didn't understand.Grin

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.

I welcome any affiliate promotion help, in fact I cherish it! Love



always ask, it is not offensive and I don't think anyone in the thread took it that way at all.

The trouble with text conversations is we sometimes read emotions into it that are not really there.

But we were all new here at one time and we all have had to ask questions that may have seemed dumb to us but there are lots of helpful folks here who don't want you to feel dumb for asking!
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:24:23 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
SK DesignWorks wrote:
Thank you all! I feel better. I'm just getting used to all this. Sometimes I'll ask a dumb question. I apologize in advance, if it is offensive. I absolutely don't mean it to be. I just didn't understand.Grin

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.

I welcome any affiliate promotion help, in fact I cherish it! Love



always ask, it is not offensive and I don't think anyone in the thread took it that way at all.

The trouble with text conversations is we sometimes read emotions into it that are not really there.

But we were all new here at one time and we all have had to ask questions that may have seemed dumb to us but there are lots of helpful folks here who don't want you to feel dumb for asking!


This!

More often than not, my "tone" is misconstrued since I rarely use emoji's, so while I am meaning nothing at all negative, I am oftentimes considered as such. Anyways, on that note, please don't be offended SK by my last post. I am merely curious and, as you know, one way to quell curiosity is to ask a question!
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:44:11 PM
Gina ©gleem wrote:

More often than not, my "tone" is misconstrued since I rarely use emoji's, so while I am meaning nothing at all negative, I am oftentimes considered as such. Anyways, on that note, please don't be offended SK by my last post. I am merely curious and, as you know, one way to quell curiosity is to ask a question!


I've had this happen SO many times to me online. I just state something plainly with no negativity and someone reads an attitude into it and picks a cat-fight, rudely tells me off/personally insults me, or even blocks me... all because they read something I wrote with the wrong tone.

There's the internet for you. 🤐
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 7:11:37 PM
TerriKJones wrote:
Gina ©gleem wrote:

More often than not, my "tone" is misconstrued since I rarely use emoji's, so while I am meaning nothing at all negative, I am oftentimes considered as such. Anyways, on that note, please don't be offended SK by my last post. I am merely curious and, as you know, one way to quell curiosity is to ask a question!


I've had this happen SO many times to me online. I just state something plainly with no negativity and someone reads an attitude into it and picks a cat-fight, rudely tells me off/personally insults me, or even blocks me... all because they read something I wrote with the wrong tone.

There's the internet for you. 🤐


Yep that is what happens! I am sorry you have to experience, too. It isn't really any fun.

I hope the OP didn't take offense, or feel slighted, by my posts.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 8:11:30 PM
Gina ©gleem wrote:
SK DesignWorks wrote:

It actually was the one on the affiliate design request forum that I noticed and was referring to. It made me nervous, not knowing who it was in such a sensitive area.


The "Spammer Guest" is a nuisance, but gets reported each, and every time, S/He posts.
I'm not sure how a Public Forum is considered a sensitive area *shrugs*
Just curious as to how you came to that conclusion?


I took that as meaning that is where we share our designs and her worrying they might be there to steal them. But as you said it is a public forum section and a thief can steal our images from anywhere.

It is more likely someone who has been banned from the forums and may have hard feelings about it so they try to cause havoc in the only place they can.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:49:28 PM
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:00:34 PM
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


I wonder if a Zazzle Designer is banned from the forums, is their whole Zazzle account banned (ie. they can't sell anymore)?
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:25:26 PM
No. They can still have stores.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:32:32 PM
TerriKJones wrote:
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


I wonder if a Zazzle Designer is banned from the forums, is their whole Zazzle account banned (ie. they can't sell anymore)?


I imagine if someone used the forums to violate Zazzle's TOS or UA, such as scamming, harassing or abusing other users or posting solicitation links, data mining links etc. or to impersonate, falsely accuse or misrepresent users or just flat out break the law they could probably terminate their account.

But I know designers who have been banned from the forums for inappropriate behavior and/or language and they still have stores.
Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2019 11:09:15 PM
Jerry Lambert wrote:
TerriKJones wrote:
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


I wonder if a Zazzle Designer is banned from the forums, is their whole Zazzle account banned (ie. they can't sell anymore)?


I imagine if someone used the forums to violate Zazzle's TOS or UA, such as scamming, harassing or abusing other users or posting solicitation links, data mining links etc. or to impersonate, falsely accuse or misrepresent users or just flat out break the law they could probably terminate their account.

But I know designers who have been banned from the forums for inappropriate behavior and/or language and they still have stores.


Good to know, Jerry? Thank you. Roses

(Not that I'm planning on this happening to me or anything... Laughing )
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:22:09 AM
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


Even when you are not logged in? I thought you would be like any other guest user. Interesting.
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 5:15:13 AM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


Even when you are not logged in? I thought you would be like any other guest user. Interesting.


As someone who has been banned from the forums before, I can confirm that a white page is all that is seen, even if logged into the Zazzle site.
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 7:49:53 AM
Gina ©gleem wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Maz wrote:
It’s my understanding that if you’re banned from the forums that all you see is a white page.


Even when you are not logged in? I thought you would be like any other guest user. Interesting.


As someone who has been banned from the forums before, I can confirm that a white page is all that is seen, even if logged into the Zazzle site.


Okay then, that makes this spammer's intentions even more mysterious...

Idea
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 8:20:42 AM
I think it may depend on whether a person is banned under their account name or their store name. If it's the account, it's probably white-page city, but I know of people whose store name was banned, and they could sign in under another of their store names and see the forums.

But how is the spammer in question avoiding the total ban?
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 10:49:08 AM
Colorwash wrote:

But how is the spammer in question avoiding the total ban?


I'm not sure about the YAF forum software here but I have been in other forums where banned users keep coming back by spoofing their IP.
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 11:00:55 AM
Yep. That's why it's near impossible to ban spammers.
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 11:58:24 AM
Jerry Lambert wrote:
Colorwash wrote:

But how is the spammer in question avoiding the total ban?


I'm not sure about the YAF forum software here but I have been in other forums where banned users keep coming back by spoofing their IP.

If such people put as much effort as they do into stupidity into doing one good deed a day, the ills of society would be cured.
Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:01:04 PM
If your IP address is banned, all you have to do is use a free proxy server.
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