I didn't make template objects!
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:41:49 PM
I JUST realized today that none of my designs have the text areas marked as template objects ...

So nobody was able to enter their own text. My stuff hasn't received many views so I suppose that part is okay ..

but I need to go through all of them now I assume... I can't believe I didn't realize this but I know I have a lot of work to do all around.

My question is: Do I need to create new products now and delete all these old ones because we can't edit them otherwise?

Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:51:08 PM
BeautifulVibe wrote:


My question is: Do I need to create new products now and delete all these old ones because we can't edit them otherwise?



To avoid duplicates, yes.
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:56:37 PM
I ran into this problem but decided to fix it "from now on". Luckily I always allow customization so its not completely limiting to the customer...and I've still made sales from those items
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 6:58:28 PM
BeautifulVibe wrote:


My question is: Do I need to create new products now and delete all these old ones because we can't edit them otherwise?



If the product needs to be customized then yes. Look at it this way, now's the time to tweak your designs.

Use the "create your own from scratch" link by the "About This Design" area of the product page. It will save you time if you just copy and paste all the elements on the new product. Just don't forget those templates!
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:02:26 PM
Crying

Thanks! I did it already for another reason so to do it again hahah it's so painful.

I'd like to figure out my issues now though than later. I have a feeling I've been doing a lot wrong ..
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 8:59:53 PM
Can anyone please clarify for me...

is it necessary to have these (the text areas) set as template objects for people to be able to change them at all?

Or is it that it would just make it easier for them?

I can see people have items that can be "personalized" while mine show as "customize" ..

Sorry, just confused.

Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 9:45:30 PM
When I first started I had made my text a template, but not my image, and I still have a lot like that in my store, so slowly but surely I chose my most important designs, and have either edited them, or click customize, and select the items you wish to make as template, make any other required changes, and post for sale. (Because most of your original hard work will still be there, like your tags, your percentage, store etc.) And then I go back to the original one I had posted and delete that one. (Note::: I do not repost, or edit a product if I have sold a product - I just leave that item posted as is because otherwise it will take it out of the market place placement) I believe the only way a customer can transfer your design on to any product is if the text and images are templates. I just do like 5 a day to not be overwhelmed by the process. Hope this helps ... Smile
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:04:18 PM
BeautifulVibe wrote:
Crying

Thanks! I did it already for another reason so to do it again hahah it's so painful.

I'd like to figure out my issues now though than later. I have a feeling I've been doing a lot wrong ..

As a little consolation, I'm doing this for the third time right now, and going the full masochist path with interconnected website and api functionality. It's a huge pain and a slow process, but in the long run it's definitely worth the hassle, IMO, if you're geared towards a clean, appealing and functional store, where quality goes over quantity. Doing this at the beginning, when you don't already have thousands of products that need to be redone, helps a lot. In my profession as designer and software engineer, I've experienced that taking your time right in the beginning (to do your job as best as possible) pays off more in the long run than rushing. Zazzle isn't different. My opinion, others may think differently. So... good luck and have fun, and remember, you're not alone ;-)
Posted: Monday, June 10, 2019 10:13:25 PM
BeautifulVibe wrote:
Can anyone please clarify for me...

is it necessary to have these (the text areas) set as template objects for people to be able to change them at all?

Or is it that it would just make it easier for them?

I can see people have items that can be "personalized" while mine show as "customize" ..

Sorry, just confused.


The design elements don't have to be template objects to be edited/modified/deleted within the designer, as long as you allow them to be customized and don't lock them.

If you create text and image templates, you make it easier for the customers, giving them the possibility to change the text and images within the personalize form and without having to mess with the designer, unless they want to customize further (such as changing fonts, deleting, re-positioning or adding something, whatever). I would recommend to make templates for all content that is intended to be personalized by customers.
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 12:19:23 AM
LM Gildersleeve wrote:
BeautifulVibe wrote:


My question is: Do I need to create new products now and delete all these old ones because we can't edit them otherwise?



If the product needs to be customized then yes. Look at it this way, now's the time to tweak your designs.

Use the "create your own from scratch" link by the "About This Design" area of the product page. It will save you time if you just copy and paste all the elements on the new product. Just don't forget those templates!


When the design itself is okay this would be slower, since your title, descriptions and tags would be lost.

I'd go with customize, set the text to template name the label and hit done, hit sell, check spelling and if title, description and tags can be improved, if your commission is still what you prefer and send it off.

And last set the old one to direct only and when in 13 month nobody clicked on the old version (direct only) from any outside link delete the old version.

... that would be my modus operandi in this case.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 12:26:12 AM
PetsDreamlands wrote:
I would recommend to make templates for all content that is intended to be personalized by customers.


Exactly. Me, too. Happy

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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:17:06 AM
vivendulies wrote:
...I'd go with customize, set the text to template name the label and hit done, hit sell, check spelling and if title, description and tags can be improved, if your commission is still what you prefer and send it off...

And here comes my "me too" Smile

I always open existing designs/products that match the new one best (e.g. template fields, decoration, whatever gives most work to redo), customize as needed to fit the new design/content, click on sell and only have to adjust the publishing options and info to the new design before publishing. Quick and painless. Plus, having all your descriptions, tags and titles saved (well sorted) in Word (or Excel, database, whatever suits you best), speeds the process up, too.
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 2:23:50 AM
BeautifulVibe wrote:

I can see people have items that can be "personalized" while mine show as "customize" ..


Here are some threads for you to read through:

Customize vs. Personalize Feature

How Can We change The Word Customize To Personalize?

Customize vs Personalize on Product Page
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:34:00 AM
One word about locking the design elements that you are not making templates...

I used to do this but since the design transfer feature came out I stopped because I realized that if the image or text is locked and the design doesn't transfer well, there is no way for the shopper to go into the design tool and fix it.

So imo the "make permanent but always visible" is the only user friendly way to "lock" your elements and still take advantage of the design transfer.

At least then the shopper can still move things around if they need to when they get to the new product and it isn't looking right and you might still get the sale.

If they can't move anything to fix it, it will be a no sale.


I also now, always make templates that can be changed on the product page for any design element that the buyer will need to customize/personalize. Mostly text templates but also photo templates sometimes.

If I am having to remake an older design from my early days when I messed up, I do like Vivendulies said and make it direct only until it goes to the time limit and gets no views... then I will delete it.
I do this so I won't break any active affiliate links.
Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:57:30 PM
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone and thank you for the words of encouragement.
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