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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:17:00 PM
For those designers who haven't seen the post Christine posted 8.16.17 here it is.

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Hi Designers,

We have some really good news for you! Zazzle is going to start selling some of your products on 3rd party sites starting at the end of August. This means more exposure and potentially more sales for all the great work you do. We’re starting small and, in the beginning, choosing only designs that don’t require customization and then a bit later, we’ll include products that have simple personalization options within their templates. We’ll be adding products we think will be successful on these outside sites based on ongoing analysis.

If you’d like to opt out of selling on 3rd party sites, you can do so by going to your store’s Advanced Settings page, scrolling down to the Marketing and Promotions section and checking the ‘Do not allow my products to be sold on other websites’ box.

We won’t be able to notify designers in advance to know if we’re featuring a product of theirs on one of these other sites as the products selected will be changing over time as we optimize the offering.

We hope this opportunity brings many of you more visibility and sales in the future.

Happy designing!

The Z Team


My questions to you Christine;

1. How does a "third party website" compare to an associates website?

2. Will our royalties be calculated any less if something is sold via a third party of your choosing?

3. Is there any way we could know which sites Zazzle will be partnering with?

I'm sure there will be more questions to come on this subject.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:23:25 PM
Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve wrote:
My questions to you Christine;

1. How does a "third party website" compare to an associates website?

2. Will our royalties be calculated any less if something is sold via a third party of your choosing?

3. Is there any way we could know which sites Zazzle will be partnering with?

I'm sure there will be more questions to come on this subject.

+1. I especially want to know the answer to #3, as there's a good chance it will determine whether or not I choose to opt out (and maybe even whether I decide to stick around.)

One more:

4. Will designers be able to opt in or out at any time, is it a one-time thing, or will it be limited to once per month, like changing royalties?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:36:28 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I will be forwarding these questions on to our team and we will get back to you once we have an update.

Please continue to post your questions here rather than other threads so we can keep all the info consolidated in one place.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:05:55 PM
Will products be appearing by manual selection or via feed?

Will all those opting in be appearing on these sites or is it limited to only those with low royalties set?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:22:23 PM
2 and 3 are my main questions too.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:28:16 PM
Would they have access to all our images?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:46:02 PM
Create_Business_Card wrote:
Would they have access to all our images?


They won't, or shouldn't, have any access at all to our images. This is just for products we have designed and posted for sale.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:59:59 PM
I need answers to all these questions in order to make a decision and I would also like to know if someone who opts out or in can later change their mind.

Security of our images is also a concern and a big reason why I don't work with certain other PODS.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:17:01 PM
Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve wrote:
If you’d like to opt out of selling on 3rd party sites, you can do so by going to your store’s Advanced Settings page, scrolling down to the Marketing and Promotions section and checking the ‘Do not allow my products to be sold on other websites’ box.

Can we please get an option to opt out/in ALL of our stores with one click? It might be set up so that if we opt out/in at the account level, then the option to opt out/in at the store level is grayed out or something similar. At least get all the clicking on one page.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:21:10 PM
Will we be able to ascertain that Zazzle has posted our items for sale on 3rd party sites vs someone pirating products?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:30:37 PM
Another question:

If we're opted in or out and later decide to change it, how long before it takes affect on the third party site?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:38:38 PM
Quote:
We’re starting small and, in the beginning, choosing only designs that don’t require customization and then a bit later, we’ll include products that have simple personalization options within their templates.

I love the sound of that because that describes most of my stuff! Grin

I think this sounds fabulous though really. More exposure, more sales, more royalties. I fail to see the negative here or why one would want to opt out. From the other thread re referrals people were saying they rarely get referral bonuses (boni?) anyways so it's not like anything is really being lost there dollar wise.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:59:56 PM
Col's Creations© wrote:
[quote]I fail to see the negative here or why one would want to opt out.


Colleen no one wants to argue with you. We want to ask questions without your judgement.

Please try and keep this a questions and answers thread. We can't get emotional without knowing all the facts.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:06:40 PM
Important question: will the licensing agreement be different from Zazzle's? If so is the opt in equivalent to areeing to a new license?

edit: will we be able to view any new licensing agreement before opting in?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:11:36 PM
Will the platforms other sellers have access to Zazzle's product images bearing our designs, and be able to create their own listings against them?

What claims of rights to those images will the platform provider assert? Will they be in the nature of 'performance' in order to support the listing and for promotion, or will it be something beyond that?
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:25:20 PM
Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve wrote:
Col's Creations© wrote:
[quote]I fail to see the negative here or why one would want to opt out.


Colleen no one wants to argue with you. We want to ask questions without your judgement.

Please try and keep this a questions and answers thread. We can't get emotional without knowing all the facts.

I was not arguing or judging and the only emotion I was expressing was one of excitement over a new developmemt. I'm sorry I wasn't being pessimistic enough to suit your thread.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:36:59 PM
I don't think of this as pessimistic but as wanting to make informed decisions about who I am allowing to profit from my work. When it all boils down we are independent contractors who are licensing our designs and we need to know important details.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:54:25 PM
+1
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:17:10 PM
The opt out reads like this:

Quote:
Zazzle markets, promotes, and sells your products on Zazzle.com and its affiliated sites, and may also do so on other websites.
[ ] Do not allow my products to be sold on other websites.

That opt-out is pretty general. I would like to be sure that by opting out of this new deal I'm not also preventing (1) regular affiliate websites built by Associates or (2) Zazzle's international sites from showing my products.

Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:30:15 PM
#1--Will we be given a list of these web site so we can go see what's going on in them.
#2--will these web sites be protected against image stealing.
#3-- how long will it take for use to be Notified when a item has sold.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:07:16 PM
I want in Smile Non customizable things- meaning not even an image template?

thanks Roses
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:26:12 AM
I honestly don't understand exactly what is meant by "3rd Party" websites in this context. Are they other websites started by the main Zazzle company, other websites already in existence which are not currently affiliated in any way with Zazzle, or something else altogether?
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:28:57 AM
1. What are the proposed royalty rates for non customisation products that may (or may not) be chosen.

2. Will it only be for the ever popular high z-ranking designers that offer non customisation products or will the less popular/ less trendy designers have a shot.

3. How will the products be picked? Will there be a hashtag (like zgroupon) for consideration

4. Does z-rank have a role to play?

5. Is the third party website Amazon Marketplace?
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:14:17 AM
Thanks for the continued comments and questions folks, we're getting some answers for you and will consolidate them all in one post as soon as we can Smile
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:48:20 AM
Annyway wrote:
I honestly don't understand exactly what is meant by "3rd Party" websites in this context. Are they other websites started by the main Zazzle company, other websites already in existence which are not currently affiliated in any way with Zazzle, or something else altogether?

Everything is vague and needs answers, but your question is precisely the same one that immediately popped into my head. "3rd party"? Are they selling the product or are they simply being paid to advertise the product and all will be drop shipped from either Zazzle or the companies Zazzle deals with? Regardless, I can see no way for designers to not have their royalties dipped into, and so the question will be whether or not the cost to us is the same as when an affiliate "recommends" us. Which brings up a related question: How is this going to affect the affiliates? If it causes them to simply give up, we designers will be losing right along with the affiliates (who we truly appreciate).
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:02:26 AM
My questions were answered when I read the announcement :-) yay!
Sounds good so far, I'm all for more exposure leading to possible sales.
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:10:59 AM
I want to know all the answers for questions in this thread! Smile But I also have one of my own.

I'm wondering what will qualify an item as non customizable, because I'd love my products to be included in this but nearly all of them can be customized by the customer in some way (background colour, resizing design etc). Will products that have no custom text, monograms etc but are able to be altered by the customer (background colour change, move the design etc) be included in this? Or will it have to have no customization abilities enabled to qualify?

Thanks!
Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:38:04 AM
Looking forward to the answers of the questions that started this all.

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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:39:29 AM
Annyway wrote:
I honestly don't understand exactly what is meant by "3rd Party" websites in this context. Are they other websites started by the main Zazzle company, other websites already in existence which are not currently affiliated in any way with Zazzle, or something else altogether?


This and all of the other questions but also I want to know who will be responsible for insuring the quality of those other sites??? Because of this latter question I'd want not only to know where products will be sold but if IMHO the website isn't up to OUR standards can we opt out on a website by website basis.

[edit] For clarification purposes there are retail websites where I absolutely don't want to see my products sold. First and foremost is WALMART.

Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:50:56 AM
Looking forward to the answers to the questions in the thread.

Also, what kind of non customizable products will be featured on these sites. Are these specific niche sites like clothing/ tshirts or websites that sell a broad range of items?
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