Designers, what are your thoughts about the new free digital downloads tool? 5 pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5
Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:04:02 AM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
As you say they need link backs, at the very least this seems like a monumental missed opportunity for advertising.

This! There are lots of websites and apps, from website builders to photo tools to even video editors that are free to use and will spit out finished content likewise free to use any way you like but it has the providers "by-line" or watermark on it; if you don't want that you have to pay. The watermark encourages people to buy the thing and if they don't care about the watermark, it's advertising!

I could understand all this if the long range plan was something like

1) offer the design tool & some templates and free downloads of resulting images all of which will contain a watermark somewhere
2) Offer a standard subscription plan that gives you watermark-free downloads
3) Offer a premium subscription that gives you access to a greater selection of templates, and watermark-free downloads.

I don't know what the Zazzle execs are thinking & planning and it's really none of my business BUT it is concern that if they start trying to juggle to many different balls everything will suffer. It seems to me they do really well as a POD with an excellent reputation for customer service, I'd hate to see that jeopardized by them moving their focus to this new venture of digital content / social media sharing.
Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:55:09 AM
Social media banners and such - sounds cool and a good way to keep people "on-site" and also attract new users.

Not too keen on the whole "evite" and other digital download option that will also happen to be printable resolution. That's basically a way for anyone to swipe artwork and then claim "they paid for it" so they thought they owned the copyright. But I suppose if we are able to choose what to make available and set our own prices for them and receive the royalty and referrals on them, that's fair.

Dream goal for such an integration: a tool that grabs the existing product images, places them on one of a large selection of unique and interesting in-situ views, then being able to add our own text on top and download a selected social media image size... to more easily promote our own products - that's what I was hoping this was going to be.

If it worked well and had a good variety of creative and colorful in-situ views for every product, I'd probably be willing to pay a little bit for the privilege of using such a thing too : )



Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:56:14 AM
PaperGrape wrote:
Not too keen on the whole "evite" and other digital download option that will also happen to be printable resolution. That's basically a way for anyone to swipe artwork and then claim "they paid for it" so they thought they owned the copyright. But I suppose if we are able to choose what to make available and set our own prices for them and receive the royalty and referrals on them, that's fair.

With their talk of the option for designers to submit templates in the future, that's immediately what came to mind. Like a stock photo site. You can choose what (if anything) to offer and choose the level of copyright/use restrictions you want, and then get paid per download. I'm not sure how I feel about that yet.

PaperGrape wrote:
Dream goal for such an integration: a tool that grabs the existing product images, places them on one of a large selection of unique and interesting in-situ views, then being able to add our own text on top and download a selected social media image size... to more easily promote our own products - that's what I was hoping this was going to be. If it worked well and had a good variety of creative and colorful in-situ views for every product, I'd probably be willing to pay a little bit for the privilege of using such a thing too : )

That would be awesome! But that is looking at it from a designer/seller point of view and it seems to me that Zazzle is looking at this from a shopper/customer point of view, as a way to get more folks to buy for themselves rather than publish for the marketplace. First it was the icons that can only be used for one's personal purchases and now this new tool that only lets you Add to Cart, not post for sale. I think they are looking for ways to make it easier for random e-shoppers to make personalized products on their own, for their own use, and not so much focus at the moment on making things easier/better for designers/sellers who use Zazzle as a for-profit business venture. It's two completely different targets and this new Create concept is definitely focused on the former.







Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:18:02 PM
PaperGrape wrote:
Dream goal for such an integration: a tool that grabs the existing product images, places them on one of a large selection of unique and interesting in-situ views, then being able to add our own text on top and download a selected social media image size... to more easily promote our own products - that's what I was hoping this was going to be.
This is really great feedback and we have passed it on to the product team. For now, this tool is intended for more general usage, but ideas on how it could be leveraged better by the Designer community are always appreciated.

Also, I think it's important to remember that this is just an AB test, and so things are always subject to change. We actually made a few small tweaks last night*. And it's possible that when this test ends that we'll make additional tweaks (or we'll overhaul an entire page) based on data that we've collected, or because of feedback like this.

* one change includes the ability to click on the Z logo in the upper left corner of the page to return from the design tool back to the main Create page.
Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:21:06 PM
Scott wrote:
PaperGrape wrote:
Dream goal for such an integration: a tool that grabs the existing product images, places them on one of a large selection of unique and interesting in-situ views, then being able to add our own text on top and download a selected social media image size... to more easily promote our own products - that's what I was hoping this was going to be.
This is really great feedback and we have passed it on to the product team. For now, this tool is intended for more general usage, but ideas on how it could be leveraged better by the Designer community are always appreciated.

Also, I think it's important to remember that this is just an AB test, and so things are always subject to change. We actually made a few small tweaks last night*. And it's possible that when this test ends that we'll make additional tweaks (or we'll overhaul an entire page) based on data that we've collected, or because of feedback like this.

* one change includes the ability to click on the Z logo in the upper left corner of the page to return from the design tool back to the main Create page.


Cool! I was actually looking at placeit.net recently, but most of their mockups are actually pretty bland and not much is wedding or party related (mostly fairly corporate stuff).

I totally see the value in this tool as it is now as far as gaining new users, especially via mobile and social. I can see how it would be fun for social media "influencers" and small businesses wanting to add a little merch collection to sell via social as well.

The *ETA: potentially/hinted at downloadable printable images of things that designers have posted* is the only concerning part, from a designer perspective. Because what would stop someone from downloading a "blank" printable version of my art, and reuploading it to Z or other POD?
Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:49:12 PM
PaperGrape wrote:


Dream goal for such an integration: a tool that grabs the existing product images, places them on one of a large selection of unique and interesting in-situ views, then being able to add our own text on top and download a selected social media image size... to more easily promote our own products - that's what I was hoping this was going to be.



I like the idea of being able to add my products/designs to mockups and then publish them on social media. It will go along way to promote our work.

A social media option for Pinterest is missing so far (point me towards it if it is there). Until now I have used one of the product images and made it work for the recommended Pinterest size of 600x900px

Like this below
Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 4:29:32 AM
PaperGrape wrote:
The downloadable printable images is the only concerning part, from a designer perspective. Because what would stop someone from downloading a "blank" printable version of my art, and reuploading it to Z or other POD?

As the tool is now, there is no way to use someone else's images. One only has access to the template images provided by Zazzle and/or they can upload their own images.
Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 5:11:15 AM
Col's Creations wrote:
PaperGrape wrote:
The downloadable printable images is the only concerning part, from a designer perspective. Because what would stop someone from downloading a "blank" printable version of my art, and reuploading it to Z or other POD?

As the tool is now, there is no way to use someone else's images. One only has access to the template images provided by Zazzle and/or they can upload their own images.


Plus at the most he will have little more than a 1000 pixel. That is not enough for most products and already easily accessible here on zazzle with all the designs that don't use watermarks. Only the download invitation per button is new.
Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 6:06:36 AM
I do like the idea of a mock up tool as well especially considering how some of the insitu views here are not as appealing as they could be.

Regarding the download button... as long as my own art and designs are not available for free downloads, well okay but I still don't understand why there is no link back to Zazzle or even a mention of the company on the download and the extra competition to the marketplace is not thrilling but maybe it won't be a big issue.


I realize this is only phase one and it is in testing. I am interested to see where it goes from here. And if and when features are added that do involve the designers content I hope an opt out will be already in place and we won't have to beg for it.



Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:36:36 AM
A good mockup generator tool would be Awesome, kinda like Placeit offers but I guess way less choices and free for designers!

I think I get the jist of what this new thing is, but I'll have to go watch the vid, as this is all news to me.
Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:05:27 PM
I've already used this a/b test create for social media images. I've found work arounds creating drop shadows and stuff like that. Kind of like using Canva but "local".
Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:44:50 PM
Lynn-Marie Gildersleeve wrote:
I've already used this a/b test create for social media images. I've found work arounds creating drop shadows and stuff like that. Kind of like using Canva but "local".


I always use Stencil and love it but only 10 downloads a month are free and it looks like all the free content (which is limited) comes from Pixabay.

ETA: but I like some of the fonts and filters they have and how easy the design tool is to use to make social media images.



Posted: Monday, July 01, 2019 3:13:15 PM
I have read this forum posting 3 times../ and I still do not get it.. what is the point of these
and who will make them
and who's designs are being used for the templates
and why are they free
and what keeps someone from using one of our designs and selling it at teepsring etc?

I really would like some help answering these things.. thanks..
Posted: Monday, July 01, 2019 3:26:04 PM
ArizonaTees wrote:
I have read this forum posting 3 times../ and I still do not get it.. what is the point of these
and who will make them
and who's designs are being used for the templates
and why are they free
and what keeps someone from using one of our designs and selling it at teepsring etc?

I really would like some help answering these things.. thanks..

...and the newsletter that was issued today didn't explain anything either...here we go again into the zazzle twilight zone!
Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:07:24 AM
Digitalbcon Wainman wrote:
ArizonaTees wrote:
I have read this forum posting 3 times../ and I still do not get it.. what is the point of these
and who will make them
and who's designs are being used for the templates
and why are they free
and what keeps someone from using one of our designs and selling it at teepsring etc?

I really would like some help answering these things.. thanks..

...and the newsletter that was issued today didn't explain anything either...here we go again into the zazzle twilight zone!


Yes it would be nice to get some kind of response from Zazzle to all the questions and concerns raised by this new thing.
Posted: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 9:23:36 AM
I've been mostly absent for quite a while, so maybe that's why I'm kind of lost on what this change is and what it's for. I watched the video, but I came away from it still wondering. Is it for customers and is merely something we can avail ourselves of? Color me "totally lost." Smile
Posted: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 9:39:10 AM
Colorwash wrote:
I've been mostly absent for quite a while, so maybe that's why I'm kind of lost on what this change is and what it's for. I watched the video, but I came away from it still wondering. Is it for customers and is merely something we can avail ourselves of? Color me "totally lost." Smile


don't feel lonely!
Posted: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 11:57:14 AM
At some point, I'm sure, Zazzle will enlighten us.
Posted: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 1:07:28 PM
ArizonaTees wrote:
I have read this forum posting 3 times../ and I still do not get it.. what is the point of these
and who will make them
and who's designs are being used for the templates
and why are they free
and what keeps someone from using one of our designs and selling it at teepsring etc?

I really would like some help answering these things.. thanks..



  1. for now customers
  2. for now the icons zazzle bought and their inhouse designers templates
  3. to rope customer in in the hopes they don't stop at the free stuff. Zazzle makes money with their print on the demand
  4. nothing but not because of the tool, for now (that is), because right now only you can include your designs into these templates and I assume you don't offer them for download anywhere on the internet just for the ... of it.

-.-
Posted: Thursday, July 04, 2019 12:54:03 AM
Oh Gosh I hope our designs (files) aren't ever made available for download by customers! Or at least I hope we can opt out of it, if this option is available to people.

This is all still very confusing to me. I hope Zazzle makes another more in-depth video that actually shows a screen-share and what this really means for us/designers.

I need to re-read this entire thread.

From what I've read, I get the sinking feeling that this may lead to fewer sales for me overall. Maybe I'm really not understanding what this whole concept is.
Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 7:50:37 AM
Thanks for your questions everyone. We will get compile and get back as soon as we can. Roses Roses
Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:45:44 PM
James wrote:
Thanks for your questions everyone. We will get compile and get back as soon as we can. Roses Roses


thank you James!
Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2019 8:50:38 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Colorwash wrote:
I've been mostly absent for quite a while, so maybe that's why I'm kind of lost on what this change is and what it's for. I watched the video, but I came away from it still wondering. Is it for customers and is merely something we can avail ourselves of? Color me "totally lost." Smile


don't feel lonely!


I'm a bit lost, myself, although I'm pretty clueless about a lot of things at first. I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.
Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2019 9:07:21 PM
I have some feedback for the Zazzle team that is working on this. Just things that I noticed when I wanted to create something and things did not go as I expected.

1. I go to .zazzle.com/create and click on "start new design", which leads me into the design tool. The first thing I see here is a square design area and I am in the "Icons" tab. The first thing I want to do here is change the format to whatever I would like to create. So I think it might be better to start in the "Formats" tab.

2. When I click in the "Formats" tab on "Custom Size" I can enter whatever size I want my project to be. One improvement I think is needed here is the ability to set a bleed. Probably add the standard Zazzle bleed margins automatically, but give the option to change the size.

3. Some templates like business cards have a second design area e.g. the back side of the card. I wasn't able to find were I would add that if I go with a custom size. This should be more clear.

4. Generally the Create tool should lead a person through the process step by step. Like

step 1 choose a template or custom size,
step 2 add/personalize images and text,
step 3 download or show on products (to buy printed directly from Zazzle)

Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 2:33:38 AM
J32 Design wrote:
I have some feedback for the Zazzle team that is working on this. Just things that I noticed when I wanted to create something and things did not go as I expected.

3. Some templates like business cards have a second design area e.g. the back side of the card. I wasn't able to find were I would add that if I go with a custom size. This should be more clear.



I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.

Thank you for bringing this up, J32.

Edit: it's interesting that the preview selections (clicking he arrows or the dots underneath the product to change views) show the back of the business card. Why offer to show the back in preview if you can't design the back during the design process? :-)
Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 5:31:23 PM
Quote:
I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.
If you click into the Layers tab then you'll see the "Front" and "Back" print areas.
Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 6:16:11 PM
Scott wrote:
Quote:
I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.
If you click into the Layers tab then you'll see the "Front" and "Back" print areas.


On my end only "front" is available in the "layers" tab, when creating a custom sized item or even when I just click on "start new design"
Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 8:57:15 PM
J32 Design wrote:
Scott wrote:
Quote:
I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.
If you click into the Layers tab then you'll see the "Front" and "Back" print areas.


On my end only "front" is available in the "layers" tab, when creating a custom sized item or even when I just click on "start new design"


In FF/Win 10 I am seeing front and back in the layers tab starting from the template page and also starting from the "create new design" link. I wonder if it's a browser issue?
Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 9:27:25 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
J32 Design wrote:
Scott wrote:
Quote:
I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.
If you click into the Layers tab then you'll see the "Front" and "Back" print areas.


On my end only "front" is available in the "layers" tab, when creating a custom sized item or even when I just click on "start new design"


In FF/Win 10 I am seeing front and back in the layers tab starting from the template page and also starting from the "create new design" link. I wonder if it's a browser issue?


I am using the same setup. Firefox with Win10.


Posted: Monday, July 08, 2019 9:35:32 PM
J32 Design wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
J32 Design wrote:
Scott wrote:
Quote:
I also noticed when trying to create a business card that there is no option for designing the back of the card. I even switched to a greeting card and noticed there was no option (far as I can tell) to have access to front and back of the design.
If you click into the Layers tab then you'll see the "Front" and "Back" print areas.


On my end only "front" is available in the "layers" tab, when creating a custom sized item or even when I just click on "start new design"


In FF/Win 10 I am seeing front and back in the layers tab starting from the template page and also starting from the "create new design" link. I wonder if it's a browser issue?


I am using the same setup. Firefox with Win10.




well scratch that theory Idea how weird!
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