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Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 9:04:58 AM
I've not been very active here in a while (months), and I was happy to see the new design tool. Changes are always a bit troublesome, and I only used it 5-6 times, but it was easy to learn. The only thing I found annoying this far is the small preview image placed in the bottom right corner. If it was not there, all options on the right side would be viewable without scrolling. No big deal when I've learned it, but might be confusing to first time customers.

I've not run into any problems, but have only designed on very limited products.
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 9:05:38 AM
Rebecca, for me, the design space is 8-3/4 inches square, which is larger by a lot than in the older design tool.

You'd think it would be proportional, that if mine is larger, yours would be larger too.

Wish I could give you a solution.

KreaturShop, I'm always having to move the preview box out of the way. I wish it were on the left by default where it wouldn't cover over the part we need for setting up templates.
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 9:27:57 AM
Colorwash wrote:


KreaturShop, I'm always having to move the preview box out of the way. I wish it were on the left by default where it wouldn't cover over the part we need for setting up templates.


Or at the very least the default position could be collapsed so that you can see what is behind it right away without hunting.

On the bright side the part that is hidden is the template maker which is more for designers than customers so first time shoppers are not likely to be as impacted as we are.

Also once we know where it is it is just a minor annoyance to have to minimize the preview panel to get to the template maker.
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:33:35 AM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Also once we know where it is it is just a minor annoyance to have to minimize the preview panel to get to the template maker.

I tend to move it, hoping to annoy it. Grin
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:47:32 AM
Colorwash wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Also once we know where it is it is just a minor annoyance to have to minimize the preview panel to get to the template maker.

I tend to move it, hoping to annoy it. Grin


Haha. I hope you will succeed Smile And hanks, I did not even know it can be moved.
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:59:19 AM
KreaturShop wrote:
Colorwash wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Also once we know where it is it is just a minor annoyance to have to minimize the preview panel to get to the template maker.

I tend to move it, hoping to annoy it. Grin


Haha. I hope you will succeed Smile And hanks, I did not even know it can be moved.


you can click on the - sign and it collapses. I wish you could move around like the dockable toolbars I use in Gimp, but that might be pretty complicated to code... Idk, I am not a coder.
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 11:00:19 AM
I just click the - on the Preview Box to minimize it and then enlarge it when I need to *shrugs*

Shelli posted as I was typing Stick out tongue
Posted: Friday, December 07, 2018 11:04:20 AM
Rebecca Frey wrote:
It's definitely related to the tool itself rather than the monitor size--I'd used the old design tool on this exact same computer (12" Macbook) for years, and never had an issue seeing the design area.

The old tool:
The tool and design canvas is a one-size-fits-all approach, which is great for a small-ish monitor because you still get a larger design canvas.

The new tool:
It's reactive, so the design canvas will change in size based on the size of your monitor. This is a HUGE advantage to designers that run larger monitors because they get a much (much much) larger design canvas. The drawback is that users that design on a laptop will now have a smaller design canvas, which kinda sucks.

Ultimately, like many other technology companies, we are designing our products in a manner that will provide the best experience. In this instance, our latest tools have become significantly more awesome to use on larger monitors. So instead of being a one-size-fits-all width and height, which takes up only about 25% of my monitor here at work, we've decided to allow the tool to fill the entire width of the browser window.

Now that's not to say that we're going to leave anyone in the dust. There are plenty of designers and customers that would like to sit on the couch and visit our website, and for these users (and their smaller monitors) we do have some updates coming soon.

Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2018 4:42:21 AM
Happy to hear that there are some updates coming for smaller monitors, since not all of us have the space or the resources for a bigger computer!

Just a guess, but I'd think there are a good number of customers and designers using smaller laptops or tablets rather than giant desktop monitors (in fact, I don't know anyone who still uses anything other than a laptop/tablet outside of an office setting. But, maybe that has to do with being in NYC where everyone is always on the go, and nobody has an apartment big enough for a giant computer!)

If it's not possible to make the design area big enough for close-up work, maybe there could be a way to "mouse over" and have it zoom in on a specific area, rather than having to click in and out of the preview mode while trying to position text or other small details?

For now I'll cross my fingers than I can keep using the old design tool in Safari when I need to do detail work, and look forward to future improvements in the new one!
Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2018 8:31:32 AM
Colorwash wrote:
I got laughing about the NYC reference because it implied that everyone lives in a studio apartment which they blast out of every morning with screaming claustrophobia. However, you're probably correct that more people are using laptops than desktops these days. (Laptops give me claustrophobia.)


Laptops have big screens, too. I always buy a laptop work horse with a decent screen. I don't go hiking with the big one but it is nice to have the option.
Smile


I do have a tablet and a small laptop, but they have both different functions and I'm rarely on any shopping site with those, let alone working in a designer tool at a print on demand site.
Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2018 11:26:23 AM
I have 19.5" wide screen all in one desktop that fits in a small corner of my dining room that I call my cubby hole office. So you don't need much space to have a decent sized monitor, but you do need to be home to use it.

When I did have a laptop I had a 15 inch screen that never felt cramped to me. It was heavy though weighing in at a hefty 11 pounds... but it was essentially a portable desktop.

Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2018 12:05:54 PM
I work on a 17" laptop, sitting on the couch, with my laptop half on the armrest and half on a side table. Usually surrounded by three dogs cause heaven forbid mama can work in peace! Once in a while, Rocco our staffy jumps on to send a tweet or mess up my work. I have no problems with the new design tool and am looking forward to the new features that undoubtedly will be implemented.

Something I would like to see added is a zoom-in tool or magnifying glass. Sometimes it's hard to check if overlapping layers are put in place correctly when it concerns lines that have to overlap each other. The snapping tool is often very handy to get things in order, but not for every occasion. And in those cases, I turn off the snapping feature, but then it's tough to see if the layers line up correctly.

Happy Holidays to all!


Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 5:57:31 AM
Image guessing -

How well do you know your states? They don't come in any logical order, neither alphabetical nor in left to right and top down, according to dates. So don't assume because you recognize Texas.




I currently design T-shirts with the 51 US states. Even with the complete shapes it is not an easy task for me, the US is not as familiar as Europe to me but with these previews it is simply impossible. Having the name in a help bubble when hovering over the image would be really helpful.

It can get worse.



After the crocodile comes the crocodile hat and belly and after that ???

Well, after the belly comes the white of the crocodile eyes and teeth, which is a black SVG but all you see is the gap between the eyes and the teeth. I have a few of those already, no way I can keep them apart without the names.

Btw. after the second row with the bird in the tub follows the beak of the bird and then parts of a soda can, the line art, outline only and fill color and a glare (long narrow stripe). Who would have guessed?

Since fill color and glare are indistinguishable in the preview I can't tell which is which either, until I include the shape.

Grin
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 12:25:39 PM
I seldom use the small left navigator IMAGES on new design tool. I always open full IMAGES section (which shows title on hover).

I just wish that my session would remember what page I was looking at when I return for a second image.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 1:58:12 PM
I actually quite like having the image uploads available in the design tool. But I'd rather see it swap places with the stuff on the right, so that the properties related to the layers are next to them on the screen.

I have a thought about changing the way the "change image" process works, too. It would go something like this:

When a thumbnail is clicked in the image uploads...

... If no image object in the design tool is selected, simply add the new image object, just as it works now.

... Else, if an image object is selected in the design tool, provide the user a choice of replacing the selected image object with the chosen image upload, or of adding it as a new image object.

(Which should be the default - add, or replace?)

This should be quicker than the current method, while having the safeguard of letting the user add instead of replacing, in case they've left something selected in the design tool without meaning to replace it.

I'd still want the ability to bring up the larger image thumbnails, if needed. Maybe the proposed add or replace regimen could also be made to work there?

I'll have to think a bit about the handling of the desire to replace by uploading a new image.

Pros & Cons for designers?
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:17:11 PM
I like that the image has to be selected and then you have to press a button, instead of a hot replace. I work with the hot replace and it takes an effort not to hot replace. In the other the customer has a repository of designs from the designer community and you easily loose income, when a customer replaces a design by accident and has t jump through hoops to get it back.

So having the change image a clear action with a button prevents the accidental exchange.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:55:21 PM
vivendulies wrote:
I like that the image has to be selected and then you have to press a button, instead of a hot replace. I work with the hot replace and it takes an effort not to hot replace. In the other the customer has a repository of designs from the designer community and you easily loose income, when a customer replaces a design by accident and has t jump through hoops to get it back.

So having the change image a clear action with a button prevents the accidental exchange.

Confused, as I didn't suggest a "hot replace" situation.

ETA: Maybe this muddled things a bit, where I asked "Which should be the default - add, or replace?" I'm really thinking no default - you have to choose one or the other - add new, or replace the selected object.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 3:27:09 PM
Fuzzy Felosarix wrote:
vivendulies wrote:
I like that the image has to be selected and then you have to press a button, instead of a hot replace. I work with the hot replace and it takes an effort not to hot replace. In the other the customer has a repository of designs from the designer community and you easily loose income, when a customer replaces a design by accident and has t jump through hoops to get it back.

So having the change image a clear action with a button prevents the accidental exchange.

Confused, as I didn't suggest a "hot replace" situation.

ETA: Maybe this muddled things a bit, where I asked "Which should be the default - add, or replace?" I'm really thinking no default - you have to choose one or the other - add new, or replace the selected object.


Replace as a default is a hot change because you no longer actively choose to replace the image, it just happens.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 4:28:40 PM
I deleted a bunch of posts that either had nothing to do with "design tool feedback," or contribute little/nothing of value in the way of "design tool feedback." Sorry...don't mean to offend anyone by doing this, but we're trying to keep this discussion thread informational for the Z employees that are spending the time to read things over.

Please remember that this particular discussion thread is for designers to provide feedback to Zazzle about the new design tool.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 6:07:09 PM
vivendulies wrote:

How well do you know your states? They don't come in any logical order, neither alphabetical nor in left to right and top down, according to dates. So don't assume because you recognize Texas.



There are only 2 states in the US... Texas and NOT Texas...

But I work on a 14" laptop. I blew my power source in my workhorse computer and haven't really gotten around to replacing it. But occasionally cast/project to the TV or my monitor.

I don't really have any problem with the size of the design tool, but I do wish we had ability to set the preview window location.

Oh, and I do miss a couple things like:

(1) the extra large palette we had in the old tool,
(2) the ability to crop more than one image at a time,
(3) the ability to move more than one image at a time,
(4) the ability to send to back/front

Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 6:21:32 PM
Fharryn wrote:

(4) the ability to send to back/front



You can still do this with the controls at the top next to tiling where it says forward, backward.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 6:32:13 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(4) the ability to send to back/front



You can still do this with the controls at the top next to tiling where it says forward, backward.


No, I mean send to back meaning the other side. I soooooo miss that option.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 6:45:41 PM
Fharryn wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(4) the ability to send to back/front



You can still do this with the controls at the top next to tiling where it says forward, backward.


No, I mean send to back meaning the other side. I soooooo miss that option.


oh, I guess I never knew how to do that, I just copy and paste.
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 7:06:29 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(4) the ability to send to back/front



You can still do this with the controls at the top next to tiling where it says forward, backward.


No, I mean send to back meaning the other side. I soooooo miss that option.


oh, I guess I never knew how to do that, I just copy and paste.


Yeah, it's from the original tool (original to me, anyway) that is still used in QC. it would be REALLY useful combined with the transfer this design option. Especially when transferring something to the likes of a greeting card with multiple "sides". YOu could choose to just send certain layers to the back (or front, or inside top, or inside bottom, etc)
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 8:32:50 PM
Fharryn wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(4) the ability to send to back/front



You can still do this with the controls at the top next to tiling where it says forward, backward.


No, I mean send to back meaning the other side. I soooooo miss that option.


oh, I guess I never knew how to do that, I just copy and paste.


Yeah, it's from the original tool (original to me, anyway) that is still used in QC. it would be REALLY useful combined with the transfer this design option. Especially when transferring something to the likes of a greeting card with multiple "sides". YOu could choose to just send certain layers to the back (or front, or inside top, or inside bottom, etc)


I can see how that would be a time saver and I would use it.
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:12:26 AM
Fharryn wrote:

(2) the ability to crop more than one image at a time,
(3) the ability to move more than one image at a time,

They must have eliminated #2 before 2014 when I arrived here, but as for #3, you can do it now. Select the layers you want to move and either grab them and move them (as long as they overlap), or use the cursor keys to move them.
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:51:39 AM
Apologies if I mentioned any of the following before, this thread is getting quite long to find my old posts in...

- Agree: ZOOM in to check alignments in the preview tool. Like, REALLY zoom in- magnifying glass style.

- Agree with the pop-up image name in the images preview panel. Also having the full name of an image show up in the Layers List on hover. I have lots of files with long names that I like to swap so a product ends up working with Colorways.
If the file name popped up on hover (the entire name), I could simply click "replace" and find it really quickly.

- Cropping to stay the same when replacing/changing with an image of the same original dimensions.
For example, if I'd used a large square texture image, and cropped it down using the design tool to create a stripe, then replace the image with another color version of the exact dimensions - currently, the newly selected image pops in completely uncropped. I keep wishing the cropping would stick, and want the new image to drop itself in the same position that the old image was in. It would be much easier for the designer to ensure that things stay in the same place.

- Typesetting Nerd Alert: "Optical Margin Alignment" and "Optical Kerning" vs "Metrics Kerning" as used in InDesign. My Type-A Typesetter Self has a dozen heart attacks a day perusing the MP and while creating my own things. I end up using a very small variety of fonts because these settings aren't available.

Many script fonts don't set themselves properly without these options, they end up with either far too much or far too little space between words. Serif fonts look a little strangely spaced sometimes (especially around the skinnier and wider letters). Lines of text don't visually center or align quite right without them, especially visible on large script fonts and fonts with pretty swashes.

- Easy access to the swashes/glyhps that probably come with some of the script fonts in the designer? Or maybe a cheat sheet somewhere to access them via keyboard shortcuts? : )

- Ability to select multiple layers, then drag them higher or lower in the layers list to move them above or below other layers.

New designer is amazing though, thank you!

Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:08:54 AM
vivendulies wrote:
Fuzzy Felosarix wrote:
vivendulies wrote:
I like that the image has to be selected and then you have to press a button, instead of a hot replace. I work with the hot replace and it takes an effort not to hot replace. In the other the customer has a repository of designs from the designer community and you easily loose income, when a customer replaces a design by accident and has t jump through hoops to get it back.

So having the change image a clear action with a button prevents the accidental exchange.

Confused, as I didn't suggest a "hot replace" situation.

ETA: Maybe this muddled things a bit, where I asked "Which should be the default - add, or replace?" I'm really thinking no default - you have to choose one or the other - add new, or replace the selected object.


Replace as a default is a hot change because you no longer actively choose too replace the image, it just happens.

Yeah, sorry that I mentioned defaults at all. It really should be the case that one has to choose between add or replace.
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:18:43 PM
Colorwash wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(2) the ability to crop more than one image at a time,
(3) the ability to move more than one image at a time,

They must have eliminated #2 before 2014 when I arrived here, but as for #3, you can do it now. Select the layers you want to move and either grab them and move them (as long as they overlap), or use the cursor keys to move them.


Number 2 we had until about 2 months ago. I used it incessantly.

Number 3 is no longer doable... or I can't... I mean bringing layers to the top or bottom... or up/down in front of or behind other layers. i get that wasn't clear by what I said.
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:25:56 PM
Fharryn wrote:
Colorwash wrote:
Fharryn wrote:

(2) the ability to crop more than one image at a time,
(3) the ability to move more than one image at a time,

They must have eliminated #2 before 2014 when I arrived here, but as for #3, you can do it now. Select the layers you want to move and either grab them and move them (as long as they overlap), or use the cursor keys to move them.


Number 2 we had until about 2 months ago. I used it incessantly.

Number 3 is no longer doable... or I can't... I mean bringing layers to the top or bottom... or up/down in front of or behind other layers. i get that wasn't clear by what I said.

When I saw your complaint about moving multiple layers and before replying, I tested it, and it worked for me. For a long time, it's been that it won't work of there's a layer above the ones we want to move and if that layer (very annoyingly!) is immediately selected. I'll try it again just to make sure... Yes, that's still a problem. We used to be able to lock an upper layer so it couldn't be selected when moving lower layers, which makes it impossible for a customer to move a photo template placed beneath a frame. We can do it because we know the pitfalls, but in the end, it's the customer who should be catered to.
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