Product Rating Advice
Posted: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:30:56 PM
Hi Guys,

I need some advice on product ratings (G, PG-13, R).

I just discovered that Zazzle's Facebook share won't let you post anything with a PG-13 or above rating. (I think that's why they won't share anyhow.) So it just got me to thinking that maybe I'm being too restrictive with my ratings?

I've got this stuff (and other similar products) listed as PG-13 because I figured that anything that mentioned alcohol would be a no-no for kids, but maybe they don't need to be? Am I just shooting myself in the foot and losing sales? What about shot glasses? or Zippo lighters? or beer mugs? or, for that matter, wine & beer bottle labels? Where should I draw the line? I'd love some advice/clarification on this issue.

Thanks!



Posted: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:56:39 PM
I have many alcohol related designs. They’re all rated G.
Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:55:13 AM
I think the rating is for the design only, not the product. Those are all G designs in my opinion.
Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:48:40 AM
Thanks guys,

I think I'll try changing them to G and see if they at least start getting some views.
Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2019 10:27:50 AM
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The most ambivalent design and here is why I still G-rate


For any small child it is just a teddy bear with antlers. The brain has to mature to get the concept of a certain level of puns, jokes and irony. By the time the kids get the connection they are old enough to understand what alcohol is and what effects it can have.

And any problems with youth and alcohol doesn't stem from a cute teddy image with antlers but from companies making beer and liquor taste like candy and grown ups who don't care to whom they sell alcoholic beverages or safe guard and how much liquor they store at their home. And brown bagging alcoholic beverages doesn't help either when it is common knowledge what it means when someone takes a sip from a bottle in a bag.

As for lighter ... it is utter nonsense that cute images on lighter cause children to play with fire. The fascination with fire comes from the fire itself. I remember the Advent candles and real candles on our Christmas tree a very attractive light and our parents taught us early on, that an open flame demands respect and caution. It was necessary since every Christmas season there where plenty open flames in the house with five children ranging in very different age not to mention the friends of us children roaming the house with lighters accessible to us.

So I have a very hard time with US culture and their attitude towards what is and isn't G rated.

Here is another example:



The subject is fairly clear. But there is nothing offensive. There isn't even anything revealed in the US version. The European version comes without the censored black bar and still isn't offensive.

By the time children get what this design is all about, they are old enough to be exposed. So no as far as I'm concerned this design doesn't corrupt a young mind either.

But I abide by zazzles ethics. Not much choice anyways.

Happy


Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2019 11:06:18 AM
vivendulies wrote:

So I have a very hard time with US culture and their attitude towards what is and isn't G rated.


Thanks, Viviendules,

I totally agree about US culture, and since I tend to live my life surrounded by artists, radicals, and musicians, I'm not easily offended - but I'm also quite often confused by what does and doesn't offend others!

Seriously, once (at the request of a user) I made some body image empowerment graphics with the caption "Big Beautiful Woman." They basically just featured plus sized women in glamorous poses wearing bathing suits etc. Well, one of my ad networks had a fit and insisted that I immediately cease and desist with the "fetish" graphics! What?!? The supreme irony of it all was that this particular network was full of ads featuring scantily dressed women in very provocative poses, and even ads with the caption "Looking for a Fu@k Buddy?" I took the stuff down, but honestly, I still can't figure that one out! Apparently you can be as sexually provocative as you want if you're skinny, but a plus sized woman in a bathing suit is an unacceptable offense? No wonder the user who made the request felt she needed some empowerment!

well anyhow, I mostly just don't want to get in trouble with Zazzle. Do they penalize you somehow if you rate something as G that they think should be PG-13?
Posted: Thursday, September 05, 2019 12:14:02 PM
ZingerBug wrote:
vivendulies wrote:

So I have a very hard time with US culture and their attitude towards what is and isn't G rated.


Thanks, Viviendules,

I totally agree about US culture, and since I tend to live my life surrounded by artists, radicals, and musicians, I'm not easily offended - but I'm also quite often confused by what does and doesn't offend others!

Seriously, once (at the request of a user) I made some body image empowerment graphics with the caption "Big Beautiful Woman." They basically just featured plus sized women in glamorous poses wearing bathing suits etc. Well, one of my ad networks had a fit and insisted that I immediately cease and desist with the "fetish" graphics! What?!? The supreme irony of it all was that this particular network was full of ads featuring scantily dressed women in very provocative poses, and even ads with the caption "Looking for a Fu@k Buddy?" I took the stuff down, but honestly, I still can't figure that one out! Apparently you can be as sexually provocative as you want if you're skinny, but a plus sized woman in a bathing suit is an unacceptable offense? No wonder the user who made the request felt she needed some empowerment!

well anyhow, I mostly just don't want to get in trouble with Zazzle. Do they penalize you somehow if you rate something as G that they think should be PG-13?



The maturity content guidelines outline what designs they think should go where but don't give any penalties that I can see.

https://help.zazzle.com/hc/en-us/articles/219431407-The-Zazzle-Maturity-Ratings-System

There might be a bot that scans for pornographic images similar to what facebook has. I've never seen anybody complain on the forums about an image being blocked or disallowed for being rated wrong. It's probably a non-issue. References to alcohol can certainly be rated G. I know the guidelines say that G disallows drug use but that is apparently illegal drug use. After all, children see alcohol use in the adults around them. They are allowed to witness it, just not to participate.

Set all those designs you posted upthread to G. It will be fine.

I have a collection of alcohol themed designs, all rated G. No issues.



Everything in the collection is rated G and it's all good. So go ahead with those alcohol designs.
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