Men's Tie Official Design Tips & Tricks Thread 3 pages: [1] 2 3
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:05:37 PM
Hi everyone!

Here is the place for you to share all of your tips and tricks for designing our brand new men’s tie.



Get all the details about this product in the new product thread.

To show off your new designs on this product, pop over here.

Happy designing!

Best,
Liz
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:13:37 PM
I don't see any difference between the Neck view and Close Up view. Am I missing something?
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:18:19 PM
Is this in addition to the existing tie, or will the existing one no longer be availble?
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:39:25 PM
ForestWildlifeArt wrote:
I don't see any difference between the Neck view and Close Up view. Am I missing something?


The picture is the same. They're just using the two as a way to select between the "back" and "neck" design areas. Select each view and pick a background color to see how it works. (Edit: Sorry, I misread that as Neck and Back. The Close Up view is different on my end.) (Edit2: My Neck view just changed to Close Up view! This is probably what you saw.)

I'm glad to see new ties. I like the width options.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:44:10 PM
Great questions!

1) We added a "neck view" so it selects that area. We will consider take more photos down the road to more accurately represent the neck area
2) These ties are in addition to our current offering. The Zazzle Apparel Ties are pre-made, then sublimiated on (optionally) both sides. By contrast, these ties are professional Print, Cut, Sew "all over" products.
3) I want to buy one of these, so please make some great designs and let me know via Twitter if you think you have the right one for me!
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:48:21 PM
The designs aren't coming out looking too great to me. To do a design on all areas available, well it just looks off from neck to back. To just design the front and put color in the other places, it looks like the front clips over yo neck/back and it doesn't look right. I gave up on creating any for now.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:48:45 PM
I'm a little confused about designing these. When I try to put a tiled pattern on the front and then copy it to the back it isn't centered or scaled to match the front for some reason, also, what are you supposed to do for the neck section? Make it a solid color? It would be extremely difficult to match a pattern up at that point. I do like the width choices though.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:52:37 PM
Anderson_Designs wrote:
I'm a little confused about designing these. When I try to put a tiled pattern on the front and then copy it to the back it isn't centered or scaled to match the front for some reason, also, what are you supposed to do for the neck section? Make it a solid color? It would be extremely difficult to match a pattern up at that point. I do like the width choices though.


That is my issue
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:53:13 PM
I agree trying to get a background pattern on it is difficult. The scale does not match when copying and pasting from one section to another so getting the pattern on the neck and front to line up is pretty much impossible, especially with the image being so small. It would be nice if we had a zoom view for editing. Smile
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:55:56 PM
Kyle Peschel wrote:


1) We added a "neck view" so it selects that area. We will consider take more photos down the road to more accurately represent the neck area


Yeah, it would be helpful if the Neck View actually showed the neck area. While it might help designers access that section, it's totally meaningless, and maybe even confusing, to the buyer who doesn't customize.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:56:19 PM
Is the horizontal line in the art view (front) just a vertical centering marker?

I also notice that the designs aren't quite centered on the tie. Would you recommend against designs that need to be symmetrical?
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:56:26 PM
ForestWildlifeArt wrote:
It would be nice if we had a zoom view for editing. Smile


YES!!!!!
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:57:55 PM
Maybe a "Background" Design Area Option could be added, where the pattern could be tiled over the whole tie? Or is the tie actually sewn together from those three parts?
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:05:29 PM
"Background" would be a great option.

I'd probably end up putting the design on Front and Back, and making the Neck a solid, matching color.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:07:19 PM
Sharandra wrote:
Maybe a "Background" Design Area Option could be added, where the pattern could be tiled over the whole tie?


My fave design area option!
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:07:47 PM
Also the close up view and the shirt view are off center. Looks really bad.
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:06:58 PM
Yeah... I can't get my pattern to line up properly between the 3 "views" - I agree this could really use the allover background option :/
Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:02:49 PM
Not working for me. The image on front is tiled and that leaves a big empty white space on the back of the tie.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 1:51:39 AM
Very confused about why images upload in different sizes to the front - and to the back and neck areas. Back and neck look like they are smaller, even though I'm tiling the same image. Is this accurate? It is an image glitch? Is it how it is supposed to be. Zazzle, we need your guidance on this one.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:48:12 AM
I'm going to have to try my hand at these, but in the meantime and in reading what's puzzling everyone, I'm thinking the problems stem from the fact that properly made ties must be cut on the bias, and the front and back aren't cut as one piece from the fabric. Instead, they tend to be cut side-by-side. This is going to create matching problems when sewing front to back. (Yeah, I used to make ties now and then.)

Okay, time to give it a try to see how much trouble I can cause for myself.

EDIT after trying: There is an awful mismatch between the back and the neck, which shows itself clearly with stripes or plaids. Assuming the fabric is first printed and then the parts are cut from that fabric, there's no way what I saw (magnified pattern on back) is even remotely possible.

It's a display issue for sure.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:19:11 AM
I just gave it one more shot and, I am sorry, but there is no way possible I will post anything with that neck issue.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:26:01 AM
Gina ©gleem wrote:
I just gave it one more shot and, I am sorry, but there is no way possible I will post anything with that neck issue.

I'm with you on this. It's as if we're trying to paint a picture in the dark. Until it gets resolved, I'll be focusing on other things.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:31:34 AM
colorwash wrote:
Gina ©gleem wrote:
I just gave it one more shot and, I am sorry, but there is no way possible I will post anything with that neck issue.

I'm with you on this. It's as if we're trying to paint a picture in the dark. Until it gets resolved, I'll be focusing on other things.


Good way to describe it!
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:36:16 AM
I just sent a query to support, as follows:

Quote:
You’ll see queries about this in the forums, but I’m so eager to design these new ties and am not certain whether to go ahead because there is an obvious size difference between the front, back and neck panels.

To be exact, if I upload an pattern tile, and tile it on the front, it comes out one size, but when I tile the same image on the back and neck portions of the tie it is markedly smaller. Is this just a display issue? Should I be waiting before designing?

Thanks for any help you can offer, here or in the forums.

Lastly, it would be wonderful if the collections display would pick up our choice of display option. I would like to show the ties on the shirts, but even though I have selected that option, it keeps defaulting to the long view which is so tiny the buyer cannot really see the pattern.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:11:57 AM
LeatherWood Design wrote:
Not working for me. The image on front is tiled and that leaves a big empty white space on the back of the tie.


That's the Neck View. You need to add that image to 3 parts on these ties.

I'm not sure what the point of having 3 parts to a tie is. The older tie only has 2 parts.

In any case, I don't know if we have to worry too much about the background images lining up there since that area will not be visible when it's worn, although it does give it a cheaply-made look and may bring some unkind reviews.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:15:51 AM
I went to the maker's site where I discovered people could send them a fabric from which the company would create a tie. That's the parts of the tie pattern laid onto a single piece of fabric, not 3 different pieces at various magnifications. This is definitely a display flaw and will certainly put off customers big time.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:59:33 AM
The NECK view on the product display page - does not seem to show. Also, on the various sizes (Skinny, Medium, Wide) the NECK view is not the same.

NECK VIEWS
Skinny - Same view as BACK
Medium/Wide - Same view as CLOSEUP

NOTE: I did notice that the Front and BACK(seam side) are now showing one color choice, unlike the previous version where front ant BACK(seam side) were separately colored/designed.

Has the process to make these been changed from printing on ready made tie, to printing before tie is made?
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:03:09 AM
BKMuir wrote:
Has the process to make these been changed from printing on ready made tie, to printing before tie is made?

These are completely a new product, from Kyle in the announcement thread;
Quote:
To clarify for all the tie designers out there, this tie is a quality work of art. Your design is printed direct to uncut fabric, then cut to shape, then sewn together, resulting in a look found in high end suit stores. You'll find it worthy of any professional attire.

By contrast, our other ties are pre-made, then printed (optionally on both sides) on the finished product.

https://forum.zazzle.com/news/new_products_9_25_2015_desk_business_card_holders?m=1148381#1148381

Steve.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:07:41 AM
Steve Crompton wrote:
BKMuir wrote:
Has the process to make these been changed from printing on ready made tie, to printing before tie is made?

These are completely a new product, from Kyle in the announcement thread;
Quote:
To clarify for all the tie designers out there, this tie is a quality work of art. Your design is printed direct to uncut fabric, then cut to shape, then sewn together, resulting in a look found in high end suit stores. You'll find it worthy of any professional attire.

By contrast, our other ties are pre-made, then printed (optionally on both sides) on the finished product.

https://forum.zazzle.com/news/new_products_9_25_2015_desk_business_card_holders?m=1148381#1148381

Steve.


Just saw this when I finished reading the new product announcement. It should be put at the top of this thread.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:10:05 AM
With patterns that tile, it would be helpful if the image showed up the same size on all 3 parts of the tie. I can't seem to shrink them all the same size. May have to pass on these unless I do a solid color on all and a small image on the front.
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