Delete image and the app questions
Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 12:53:04 PM
I'm still new so get confused (easily Grin ).

1. What is the purpose of creating a product and letting the main image or pattern be deleted by the customer? Wouldn't they just create their own product with their own image or pattern?

I seriously don't mean to be a newbie whiny baby but the Zazzle app ...

2. Is it mainly to shop with? I only use it to share my products to Instagram but getting to my store is a trip! The back and forth between my profile and store is frustrating. Now I know why it the reviews on it aren't great lol. It would seem easier to have a selling app and shopping app like Etsy does.

Thanks Smile

-Lisa






Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 1:21:52 PM
I don't use the app. Can't answer anything about it.

Zazzle is a POD that is all about letting the customer customize any product found on site, whether it be a blank or one posted by a designer. But you don't have to let a customer delete anything. You can lock any element and it can't be moved or removed but it can be covered up. You can set it to permanent so that it can be moved, resized, but never covered up or removed. When it comes to my designs, I tend to use the permanent option. Shapes I lock. Text is what I make as a template.
Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 1:43:45 PM
Gina ©gleem wrote:
I don't use the app. Can't answer anything about it.

Zazzle is a POD that is all about letting the customer customize any product found on site, whether it be a blank or one posted by a designer. But you don't have to let a customer delete anything. You can lock any element and it can't be moved or removed but it can be covered up. You can set it to permanent so that it can be moved, resized, but never covered up or removed. When it comes to my designs, I tend to use the permanent option. Shapes I lock. Text is what I make as a template.


Thank you, Gina. I've been doing what you've been doing. Glad to know it sounds I'm on the right track. I'm doing mainly patterns or illustrations and locking them and figure they can move them around and add something if they want. Of course, I've had no customers yet! But soon I hope.
Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 1:47:41 PM
LavenderMintGraphics wrote:
Gina ©gleem wrote:
I don't use the app. Can't answer anything about it.

Zazzle is a POD that is all about letting the customer customize any product found on site, whether it be a blank or one posted by a designer. But you don't have to let a customer delete anything. You can lock any element and it can't be moved or removed but it can be covered up. You can set it to permanent so that it can be moved, resized, but never covered up or removed. When it comes to my designs, I tend to use the permanent option. Shapes I lock. Text is what I make as a template.


Thank you, Gina. I've been doing what you've been doing. Glad to know it sounds I'm on the right track. I'm doing mainly patterns or illustrations and locking them and figure they can move them around and add something if they want. Of course, I've had no customers yet! But soon I hope.


Well, they can't move anything if it is locked. The always permanent but visible option (on the right of the design tool) allows for image movement and resizing and adding things, as well.
Posted: Friday, February 08, 2019 3:15:27 PM

I don't use the app either, when I am on my phone I use the mobile website but it is only really good for checking earnings or browsing.
To get the most out of Zazzle use the full site on a computer.



I had been locking elements like shapes thinking I would keep buyers from messing up the integrity of my designs but I made a photo postcard yesterday with the shape locked and then I noticed that on the transfers to other products the shape moves to the wrong place and if it is locked there is no way for a buyer to fix it when they want to make a transfer.

so since I have had several transfer sales already, this has me thinking I will leave my elements unlocked from now on in case someone wants to transfer the design to a different product. That way if they want to they can go in and move things around to where they are supposed to be.

When I saw that, I deleted the first locked product and redesigned it with stuff unlocked.

When you want to force the buyer to change your image is times when you have used a sample image for a photo product and they are supposed to replace the photo with their own photo.

Now that we have icons for the shoppers to use you can expect that some buyers will choose a simple pattern as a background and add icons over it to create their own designs.



Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:51:24 PM
First .. is there any way to track responses on the forum? Right now I'm trying remember where I posted something to see if there's been any more responses but after a few days it gets hard to remember where I posted something! lol

I think I have my original images set so that they can move the image around if they want but not delete it. The main image will have have the curvy move thing but not the trash bin.

I leave any shapes and text as a template so they can delete the shape and text or change either.

So you mean that if I have a pattern or image on a pillow and they wanted it on another product that I don't offer it on to sell they could do that if I leave the original image unlocked?

I know Zazzle is a place for personalization, but obviously I haven't gotten all the ins and outs of it figured out yet!

-Lisa



Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:58:20 PM
LavenderMintGraphics wrote:
First .. is there any way to track responses on the forum? Right now I'm trying remember where I posted something to see if there's been any more responses but after a few days it gets hard to remember where I posted something! lol

I think I have my original images set so that they can move the image around if they want but not delete it. The main image will have have the curvy move thing but not the trash bin.

I leave any shapes and text as a template so they can delete the shape and text or change either.

So you mean that if I have a pattern or image on a pillow and they wanted it on another product that I don't offer it on to sell they could do that if I leave the original image unlocked?

I know Zazzle is a place for personalization, but obviously I haven't gotten all the ins and outs of it figured out yet!

-Lisa




Buyers can now transfer your designs to any product whether the images are locked or unlocked.

The only way to keep that from happening is to disable it in your store settings and this means that no design transfers will be allowed at all.

I have made several transfer sales already that would not have happened otherwise, but it is a personal choice.
Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:59:13 PM
Also there is no easy way to track your thread responses but you can bookmark the thread.
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 10:58:50 AM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Also there is no easy way to track your thread responses but you can bookmark the thread.


LavenderMint...
However - to the left of the thread response is your name and the NUMBER of responses you have in the forum (13) is below. Click on this blue number and only your responses will show, I believe newest on top.

Once you find the response you remember making, click on the thread title to go to active discussion.
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 12:51:01 PM
BKMuir wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Also there is no easy way to track your thread responses but you can bookmark the thread.


LavenderMint...
However - to the left of the thread response is your name and the NUMBER of responses you have in the forum (13) is below. Click on this blue number and only your responses will show, I believe newest on top.

Once you find the response you remember making, click on the thread title to go to active discussion.


Great tip!
Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:10:28 PM
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I don't have a problem if my design "only" inspires the customer to make their own and replace every single image, since I still get the commission, though I sincerely doubt it has ever happened.

I have a few products where a photo or logo is a placeholder and I want customers to replace the image. With the new function I actually force customers to change the image even if it isn't stricktly necessary.



The Logo is a white PNG with the three leaves and word LOGO are a transparent gap and the color is provided by a circle shape underneath.

If SVG files could be set to template I would make the three leaves an SVG like the monstera leaves underneath the logo in this design, and the word LOGO a template text but I can't set SVG to template. The white PNG with holes is mainly for my convenience, because I can change the color fitting any design I like and instead of an endless number of logo placeholder in any shade and value, I only need very few.



It really wouldn't make sense to have a photo of strangers on any of these products, so these are products where I force customers to replace the template images.

- - - - -


I don't lock anything down, otherwise I don't get recommendations and five stars like this one:



The customer came to my store via this one:



But lacked the skill to turn this into this. The couple needed help which I provided with this one



They still adapted the design and made it their own, but I provided the foundation.

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This cup was ordered in a table set of seven each with the text replaced and the seventh cup was turned into a service tray with the transfer option.

All these template options are great and help sell your stuff. I wouldn't worry too much that customers mess with your design.

Smile


Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 7:39:47 AM
BKMuir - Thank you! I never thought to click the number to find my posts!

Shelli - Heck, I'll set stuff up in whatever way to help me get that first sale! Now, hopefully I can go in through the Edit in Products and unlock things without having to delete everything. I think I saw Colorwash mention that somewhere. Thank you!

vivendulies - Thank you for the examples and reasons why, much appreciated!

Thank you all so much!

I imagine most of my things will be just my patterns or illustrations that people can keep as is or add a shape and/or text as opposed to placeholders. So the consensus is that if I leave my designs, be it patterns or illustrations, unlocked they it gives the customer more options be it the product they are in or adding the designs to a product they'd prefer. Do I have that right?

Edited to Add: I see where the Edit function doesn't allow us to go and unlock the images. Oh well, moving on I guess I'll keep things unlocked if that's the best thing to do.

If so, then the flip side is what is the purpose of locking them?

Hopefully, I'll get all the angles of this figured out soon! Grin

-Lisa

Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:27:15 AM
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Some Zazzler tend to blend out, that no matter what they lock down, the tool itself still offers all that a mischievous mind needs to mess with a design. Zazzle is not the place to be overly fuzzy with your designs. However locking things down usually protects a design and it is extremely rare that a customer will bend over backwards to still mess with a design, that has been locked.

It depends on your personal preference if you want to keep things locked or unlocked.

I'm in the unlocked camp. I'm fairly confident that most designs survive a customer customization just fine and that my reputation doesn't take a hit if a customer butchers one of my designs and buys. After all anybody who comes to my page only sees the designs as intended.

And then there is the statement of butchered designs. It wouldn't be the first time, that a design paradigm changes. Fashion and trends are whimsical.

I don't share Karl Lagerfelds inflated ego and dogmatic attitude. It is not my business to impose my taste and preferences onto others and I do have stuff I consider ugly myself. It makes life definitely more interesting.

Grin

Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 8:27:56 AM
The only way you can lock/unlock an element after posting is to customize a product into a new one and delete, hide, or set to direct the original.

LavenderMintGraphics wrote:


If so, then the flip side is what is the purpose of locking them?



I lock elements (shapes, certain designs) that I don't want the customer to make any changes to in regards to resizing, rotating, moving around, and/or removing. Locking still allows a customer to add elements if they choose. I use the Permanent option for elements customers can resize, rotate, move around, but not remove.

I never allow one of my designs to be removed. If I were to do that then I would have no need to waste my time uploading designs for products. The only exceptions are when I add photos as templates.

We all work in different ways and shouldn't have to defend/explain why we work the way that we do.
(adding that due to being questioned -possibly innocently- about why I do what I do here).
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 9:04:44 AM
I lock elements that, if they were changed in any way, would cause destruction, which would, in turn, make a customer turn away. This is particularly important when frames are involved or when perfect alignment is important. Other than that, I've loosened up, leaving it up to the customers to resize or move if the spirit moves them.
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 11:30:19 AM
I just want to repeat this in case it makes a difference to any of you...

Since the design transfer was added when a customer transfers a locked design to another product and it doesn't transfer the way it should, there is no way for them to be able to go in and fix it so it will more than likely cost a sale.

I think the only way to avoid that happening if you don't want to leave your design elements unlocked is to make them permanent and always visible so that at least they can be moved and resized by the shopper if need be and you have more chance of making that transfer sale.
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:49:25 PM
Gina - I certainly mean for anyone to defend/explain why anyone works the way they do. Being a newbie I'm trying to understand the various ways and why's everyone chooses to do things. Apologies if I came across as anything but sheer curiosity.

Thanks again, all. I appreciate the different views and trying to figure out what's best. It definitely seems like it ends up being personal preference and something I'll need to decide on for myself.

-Lisa


Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:07:39 PM
LavenderMintGraphics wrote:
Gina - I certainly mean for anyone to defend/explain why anyone works the way they do. Being a newbie I'm trying to understand the various ways and why's everyone chooses to do things. Apologies if I came across as anything but sheer curiosity.

Thanks again, all. I appreciate the different views and trying to figure out what's best. It definitely seems like it ends up being personal preference and something I'll need to decide on for myself.

-Lisa


When I said "We all work in different ways and shouldn't have to defend/explain why we work the way that we do.(adding that due to being questioned -possibly innocently- about why I do what I do here)", that wasn't directed towards you. I just said how I work and stated what I did after due to having been questioned before as to why I work the way I do and having it insinuated that other ways are better. I was basically putting it out there that "This is how I work. It works for me and I don't need to defend/explain my reasons".

Also....Most of my customers don't purchase text template items, so I don't feel I am hurting myself when it comes to losing out on design transfers. I have had design transfer purchases... on none customizable products and I am happy with that.
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:54:12 PM
[/quote]

When I said "We all work in different ways and shouldn't have to defend/explain why we work the way that we do.(adding that due to being questioned -possibly innocently- about why I do what I do here)", that wasn't directed towards you. I just said how I work and stated what I did after due to having been questioned before as to why I work the way I do and having it insinuated that other ways are better. I was basically putting it out there that "This is how I work. It works for me and I don't need to defend/explain my reasons".

Also....Most of my customers don't purchase text template items, so I don't feel I am hurting myself when it comes to losing out on design transfers. I have had design transfer purchases... on none customizable products and I am happy with that.[/quote]

Ah, okay gotcha. It's helping me to get the various views and reasons behind them.

Thanks again.
Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 4:19:18 PM
Yes, there is not a one size fits all "right way" to Zazzle. We all have to find what works for us personally. This takes time and trial and error and advice is certainly helpful but not written in stone.



Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2019 4:21:43 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Yes, there is not a one size fits all "right way" to Zazzle. We all have to find what works for us personally. This takes time and trial and error and advice is certainly helpful but not written in stone.



Exactly! Smile
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:49:32 AM
If I'd followed advice, I probably wouldn't even be here. We each work in ways that suit us, and most of the time, what suits others doesn't suit me. Quick Create is a fine example of this. If I'd started out using it, I would have quit Zazzle in less than a year.
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 9:50:51 AM
Thank you all again, so many great thoughts! It's been interesting and helpful to know why everyone designs the way they do. I've been thinking over the last few days and have settled on what I think (hope and pray! lol) will work for me.

I'm continuing to add things and am hoping to snag that first sale soon. Grin

Thanks again for sharing.

-Lisa

Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:51:46 AM
Just jumping in to add that a good example of an item you might want to make permanent and not be removed, would be your artist signature, store url, website, etc that you want to be left permanently on a particular item. For example, if you were a photographer and printed a photo on a canvas, you may want your name, copyright info and so forth to be permanently on the item.

Not sure I said that in the most concise way, but hope you get what I mean!
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 1:41:12 PM
Starving Artist wrote:
Just jumping in to add that a good example of an item you might want to make permanent and not be removed, would be your artist signature, store url, website, etc that you want to be left permanently on a particular item. For example, if you were a photographer and printed a photo on a canvas, you may want your name, copyright info and so forth to be permanently on the item.

Not sure I said that in the most concise way, but hope you get what I mean!


Yep, I do - the items I've been able to add my website/logo to I've locked so they can't removed them. Thank you!

-Lisa
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