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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:06:51 PM
MelroseOriginals wrote:
vivendulies wrote:
MelroseOriginals wrote:
It is baffling what is getting rejected! I think I am going to wait to do more until we get some better answers to what is acceptable or not, but these are super fun to see my art on.

Off the subject of patterns... How in the world are some of you making so many so fast?! I think I must need a better workflow or to stop fiddling with designs so much...


Lot of rehashing designs. I could make more in the available time, if I wanted.

I have a ton of patterns in my pillow img folder from a week or two of making mixed patterned pillows.
Any Tee-design is a PNG with an isolated transparent background and easy to tile or scatter randomly.





Alt+drag, ctrl+A and a decent eye for spacing and that green grid line helps, too. And you can create any pattern.

I did create a few new designs, like the gremlin and when I linked the fractal tutorial for shelli, I played a little with the option which is why I have a few fractal design elements and an abstract chaos pattern now in my image library.

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Sorry I erased my post because I felt silly....
I use the same ones over and over too. I am just slow I guess.Idea

I am slow too.. I have only managed to make about 60 pair in 4 days.
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:13:32 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
I got some answers back from content review

on this pair



they said the design could potentially change too much with different sizes and won't look like the real view preview... okay, but that is possible with lots of the ones that are already approved as well...

I disagree, but I am getting tired of this game now so , oh well...

on this pair



and this pair



They suggested that I make the design smaller and tile it...

Well I already did that with these two.

I did have many approved but in my opinion some of my most beautiful designs got rejected.

I understand about the previews but isn't that what the popup warning is for on the product page? and if you go looking through the mp you will see many amazing designs that could potentially change considerably when the fabric is cut, and yet they still got approved.


big sigh... whatever! I think I am gonna do something else for a while... I wasted enough time with these. Lets just hope sales skyrocket to make up for all the frustration.

ETA: I also just hope that they stop pulling approved designs from the MP!





So do I.

Clearly there is no rhyme or reason for how reviewers come to their conclusions. I'm glad this one got approved and hope it stays that way:


But this and the very prominent examples I picked for demonstration what apparently was deemed acceptable on page seven and eight in this thread, show this clearly.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:14:00 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
MelroseOriginals wrote:
vivendulies wrote:
MelroseOriginals wrote:
It is baffling what is getting rejected! I think I am going to wait to do more until we get some better answers to what is acceptable or not, but these are super fun to see my art on.

Off the subject of patterns... How in the world are some of you making so many so fast?! I think I must need a better workflow or to stop fiddling with designs so much...


Lot of rehashing designs. I could make more in the available time, if I wanted.

I have a ton of patterns in my pillow img folder from a week or two of making mixed patterned pillows.
Any Tee-design is a PNG with an isolated transparent background and easy to tile or scatter randomly.





Alt+drag, ctrl+A and a decent eye for spacing and that green grid line helps, too. And you can create any pattern.

I did create a few new designs, like the gremlin and when I linked the fractal tutorial for shelli, I played a little with the option which is why I have a few fractal design elements and an abstract chaos pattern now in my image library.

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Sorry I erased my post because I felt silly....
I use the same ones over and over too. I am just slow I guess.Idea

I am slow too.. I have only managed to make about 60 pair in 4 days.

That seems like a pretty good day's work to me Shelli! If I get 5 or 6 things made I'm pretty proud of myself! Laughing
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:16:42 PM
MelroseOriginals wrote:
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
MelroseOriginals wrote:
vivendulies wrote:
MelroseOriginals wrote:
It is baffling what is getting rejected! I think I am going to wait to do more until we get some better answers to what is acceptable or not, but these are super fun to see my art on.

Off the subject of patterns... How in the world are some of you making so many so fast?! I think I must need a better workflow or to stop fiddling with designs so much...


Lot of rehashing designs. I could make more in the available time, if I wanted.

I have a ton of patterns in my pillow img folder from a week or two of making mixed patterned pillows.
Any Tee-design is a PNG with an isolated transparent background and easy to tile or scatter randomly.





Alt+drag, ctrl+A and a decent eye for spacing and that green grid line helps, too. And you can create any pattern.

I did create a few new designs, like the gremlin and when I linked the fractal tutorial for shelli, I played a little with the option which is why I have a few fractal design elements and an abstract chaos pattern now in my image library.

·△·

Sorry I erased my post because I felt silly....
I use the same ones over and over too. I am just slow I guess.Idea

I am slow too.. I have only managed to make about 60 pair in 4 days.

That seems like a pretty good day's work to me Shelli! If I get 5 or 6 things made I'm pretty proud of myself! Laughing


Well the good news is, this isn't a race! Grin
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:17:35 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
Now I am really confused!

I got an email saying these were rejected and suggesting I tile the pattern in a smaller tile...



then I was going to my store to add the newest ones to my collection and there is this sitting there...



so they got approved and rejected? This is not one of the pairs that I duplicated...

I feel like I have just entered the Zazzle twilight zone...

Maybe the opposite... rejected then approved after a rethink from your email? Or there is some confusion because of the volume of shoes coming in for approval? Colorwash got one approved with the customize button on so there are some things amiss....
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:19:20 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:


Well the good news is, this isn't a race! Grin


True. I just get anxious to have all my designs on all the things, and I never get very far! I get jealous of those that are so productive!
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:21:32 PM
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The first day I hashed out 80 in one day. I was on a roll. After that I slowed down to around half of that.

The Swabian expression is "Des geht wie's Bretzeln backen" = It flows like baking brezels.

After the first day I created new stuff and added matching leggings, tank tops and bags and was busy here.
Laughing
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 4:36:10 PM
Westerngirl wrote:
I agree, think it may be "luck of the draw". I was able to get this pattern approved today, but it was rejected when I submitted it Friday.



WesternGirl, this is similar to mine that was approved and then rejected. It's a stripe pattern in repeat. I'm wondering, like someone else mentioned, that the stripes might be tricky to line up when they cut the fabric? Maybe they are concerned that some customers might want it exactly as shown? Even if the pattern can look nice cut anywhere.

I received a reply from content review and they seem to think that my repeat pattern doesn't repeat or something like that. Their reply was a little confusing, they also mentioned the stripes. I'll try making them one more time and if they get rejected then oh well, I'll stay away from stripes.
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:03:35 PM
Art Vixen wrote:
Westerngirl wrote:
I agree, think it may be "luck of the draw". I was able to get this pattern approved today, but it was rejected when I submitted it Friday.



WesternGirl, this is similar to mine that was approved and then rejected. It's a stripe pattern in repeat. I'm wondering, like someone else mentioned, that the stripes might be tricky to line up when they cut the fabric? Maybe they are concerned that some customers might want it exactly as shown? Even if the pattern can look nice cut anywhere.

I received a reply from content review and they seem to think that my repeat pattern doesn't repeat or something like that. Their reply was a little confusing, they also mentioned the stripes. I'll try making them one more time and if they get rejected then oh well, I'll stay away from stripes.



They repeat and even if they didn't the pattern itself is so similar and corresponding with each other. And again, they shift some, they don't move all over the place or else the pattern to demonstrate on page 7 and 8 from Disney and Marvel wouldn't be possible, which makes this pattern perfectly acceptable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:11:16 PM
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Rejected:


This I give them. They have a point here.
It would have been nice if they had approved it, because I really like it with that spare random text. And I don't like it without the text or with more text more regular. So it was worth a try, but it goes in the bin with a big fat sigh.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:21:20 PM
I just checked my saved designs and saw the remainder of mine were gone, so I see they have been approved and posted. Here are some examples:







I'll just keep testing things out and see...
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:22:42 PM
great designs Terri!
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:26:04 PM
Art Vixen wrote:
Westerngirl wrote:
I agree, think it may be "luck of the draw". I was able to get this pattern approved today, but it was rejected when I submitted it Friday.



WesternGirl, this is similar to mine that was approved and then rejected. It's a stripe pattern in repeat. I'm wondering, like someone else mentioned, that the stripes might be tricky to line up when they cut the fabric? Maybe they are concerned that some customers might want it exactly as shown? Even if the pattern can look nice cut anywhere.

I received a reply from content review and they seem to think that my repeat pattern doesn't repeat or something like that. Their reply was a little confusing, they also mentioned the stripes. I'll try making them one more time and if they get rejected then oh well, I'll stay away from stripes.


Hi Artvixen, you might try rotating the tile so that the stripes run diagonally. I did that with many of my tribal stripe designs and they all got approved.
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:33:18 PM
it looks like they are still pulling designs from the MP...

I was keeping track of the number of shoes in both sorts...

Friday at 7:30 pm CST there were 3078 in the popular sort and there were 3070 in the newest sort.

tonight (Tuesday 8:33 pm CST) there are 3065 in popular and 2976 in newest.


or search might just be messed up... the 2nd time I looked at newest there were 3030...

K that is not scientific research Laughing
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 6:05:20 PM
Two more accepted! That makes me 6 for 6. Hoping they leave them alone.
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 6:10:53 PM
Shelli Fitzpatrick wrote:
great designs Terri!


I like yours as well... even the ones that weren't accepted! Laughing Roses

ps: I want to reiterate, I've noticed that the tiles that I've shrunk down more than others before tiling, seem to be going through just fine. So if you're able to, I would shrink your designs down if it'll work with your patterns. I know not all patterns will look right that way but if they do, definitely shrink them down.
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 9:23:15 PM
looking again I can see one more that might get pulled from my list, but making the design as tiny as possible and tiling seems to work well, even if a little duller in result!
Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 10:59:36 PM
What I got from watching the video is that two squares are printed for each pair of shoes and then the template shapes are cut from those.



These are my seven pairs that were approved on the first go, product preview next to how the design appears in the design tool.


One image - set to Fill


One image - set to Fill


One image - mirror tiled


One image - mirror tiled


One image - mirror tiled


One image - mirror tiled


One image - mirror tiled

(I don't like how this one tiled since it's not seamless but the repeat edge areas aren't very noticeable the way this product previews so I left it)

My personal take on all this is that it is not a matter of whether stripes/gradients are running horizontally or vertically or diagonally, or whether the design is "pointed" towards the wearer or the observer. I think it is more a matter of the design/pattern being fairly consistent around the square so they can cut pieces that will look at least somewhat similar no matter where they lay their templates.
My second pair above violates that principle but I think they got approved because the left & right shoe still look alike even though the design drops from multi-colors to mostly yellow on the lower half.

That theory in itself doesn't explain some of the rejects, BUT, we know the design renders MUCH larger on the product previews then it does in the design tool view so maybe the reviewers are looking at just the design square and not how it appears on the product previews which is often drastically different then one would think it would look. So maybe if they're just looking at the design square for consistency and not how it renders on the shoe to see "ok, that looks OK anyway", that's why things are getting rejected. I have no idea anymore than anyone else, just adding my two cents and these images for anyone really trying to analyze things. (And boy, I hope now that I have called attention to my shoes I don't find them removed tomorrow.)

Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:27:15 AM
vivendulies wrote:
···

Shift change??

Not approved:


JAMES C!!!

INCINSISTENCY³
... ridiculous ...






Both tiled.



EDIT

Not approved for inconsistency .... ARRGH


Tiled and absolutely viable and adhering to the premises.


JAMES C!!!


@Col's Creations

If you look at the bees on a weave pattern it looks absolute fine. If you look at the espadrilles in the corner it looks like the bees are just a few single ones and likely to alter drastically, which they don't because any which way you turn the patterned cloth it will have a few scattered bees on it. Which is why I say it is perfectly suitable within the definition of the design parameters.

According to James C gradients are acceptable and many of my approvals support his statement, which makes the floral pattern clearly and definitely a valid candidate for the espadrilles, but was rejected for continuity. I'd say the reviewer fouled up.

And again the same goes for the primrose pattern which is perfectly fine with a very conform pattern and again a soft gradient and not a problem but rejected for continuity in the design. And again I say the reviewer didn't know what (s)he was doing.


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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:03:47 AM
Well now it is Wednesday and either JamesC went on vacation or ?

This standard Z has of ignoring threads like this is bothersome.

Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:48:43 AM
vivendulies wrote:
Art Vixen wrote:
Westerngirl wrote:
I agree, think it may be "luck of the draw". I was able to get this pattern approved today, but it was rejected when I submitted it Friday.



WesternGirl, this is similar to mine that was approved and then rejected. It's a stripe pattern in repeat. I'm wondering, like someone else mentioned, that the stripes might be tricky to line up when they cut the fabric? Maybe they are concerned that some customers might want it exactly as shown? Even if the pattern can look nice cut anywhere.

I received a reply from content review and they seem to think that my repeat pattern doesn't repeat or something like that. Their reply was a little confusing, they also mentioned the stripes. I'll try making them one more time and if they get rejected then oh well, I'll stay away from stripes.



They repeat and even if they didn't the pattern itself is so similar and corresponding with each other. And again, they shift some, they don't move all over the place or else the pattern to demonstrate on page 7 and 8 from Disney and Marvel wouldn't be possible, which makes this pattern perfectly acceptable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Exactly. To tell the truth, my patterns were much simpler until I saw the Disney and Marvel examples, and then I decided to expand my horizons! So really, we need some definite direction here, because there's lots of wiggle room, it appears.
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 5:55:51 AM
Well I had a pair rejected a second time. I am going to give up on designing for now. I had replied to the rejection email they said they made a mistake and to resubmit them so I did and then they were rejected again. So I am thinking the different reviewers are not trained the same way and one says yes while another says no or the person that said yes got overridden by a manager higher up that said no? I have other things to do with my time that are more important than getting rejected.
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 6:03:48 AM
angelandspot wrote:
Well I had a pair rejected a second time. I am going to give up on designing for now. I had replied to the rejection email they said they made a mistake and to resubmit them so I did and then they were rejected again. So I am thinking the different reviewers are not trained the same way and one says yes while another says no or the person that said yes got overridden by a manager higher up that said no? I have other things to do with my time that are more important than getting rejected.


And I am sure if the rejections were more consistent we would understand better and not be as bothered by it.
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 8:36:04 AM
I finally got a version of this one published...



and I am happy about that but it I don't like it as much as the first one in the large pattern size and I really wanted to buy that one. Now I am not so sure I want this version. It will have to grow on me I guess.
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:00:32 AM
So if anyone has a question on why something was rejected, you won't get an answer on that here. An email should have been sent so getting back to this is the best option. If there are outstanding questions Shelli, let me know and I will gladly pass on. Ya'll have so much feedback they have blended in Shocked Grin
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:19:27 AM
James wrote:
So if anyone has a question on why something was rejected, you won't get an answer on that here. An email should have been sent so getting back to this is the best option. If there are outstanding questions Shelli, let me know and I will gladly pass on. Ya'll have so much feedback they have blended in Shocked Grin


For me it isn't so much as an answer but to give some reviewer a kick in their b...

I can only point to the Disney and Marvel examples I picked as a visual guide what is doable as to pattern precision and having a focus and direction within the pattern and how little sense some rejections made in view of these visual representations of works that will be produced fairly often and therefor will have to adhere to a high standard as to not have to many returns on those.

Smile
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:31:21 AM
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I finally have new use for very early business card background and other unusual unexpected sources like plate rims.

It is astounding what you can get from those and because you can't transfer from espadrilles you don't have to worry that these patterns cause more harm than good on most other products.

Business card backgrounds:



Here are two plate rims, which are rings with a transparent center:



Leggings pattern for mardi gras:



It is real fun to see what you can get out of very unusual and unexpected images in your library.


So all frustration aside, there is a ton of fun in creative experimentation.

Happy designing.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:57:59 AM
Thank you for the feedback everyone. Love

James C., please clarify how stripe patterns, made in a seamless repeat, should be applied to the espadrilles? Their email replies are unclear as to what the problem is.
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:15:28 AM
Art Vixen wrote:

James C., please clarify how stripe patterns, made in a seamless repeat, should be applied to the espadrilles? Their email replies are unclear as to what the problem is.


We are working on a more detailed responses to a variety of questions and will be updating the help article in the next day.

James C
Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:01:57 AM
James C wrote:
Art Vixen wrote:

James C., please clarify how stripe patterns, made in a seamless repeat, should be applied to the espadrilles? Their email replies are unclear as to what the problem is.


We are working on a more detailed responses to a variety of questions and will be updating the help article in the next day.

James C


Thank you for the response, looking forward to the followup.



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