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At a risk of being irritating I have to ask what is the point of endlessly repeating (heraldic shopkeeper) essentially one design? It doesn't justify category of being "newest."
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I've noticed a lot of new shops with a ton of the same design, and just different names. I thought that the ability to create templates would eliminate clogging up the marketplace with personalized designs. Marketplace spamming has shopkeepers at the other POD very annoyed, and they wish they had the ability to create templates like we do at Zazzle. Why do we need to have hundreds (or thousands) of items with every name possible from A through Z... when a template would solve it in a single design. like this - http://www.zazzle.com/tshirtfun/product/235763929297549119
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Hmmm - you've given me an idea for my "next" survey. Template usage/success, essentially... 
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Tshirtfun How do you set it up like that? I don't seem to have the functionality of templates for T-shirts. Looks like a really good idea. Thanks Cheers! Scott PressuredArtOfficial store for Under Pressure merchandise
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. I put my designs on a lot of different products because diferent types of products appeal to different types of people.
Sometimes I have designs that apply to more than one of my shops, so I put it in both.
Also - I have a gallery that is just peoples' names, and since I create each of them as an image, it's not something that can done with a template.
Are you saying people are opening multiple shops and just creating one design over and over? Or are you just questioning why someone would put their design on mulitple items?
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sruhs wrote:Tshirtfun How do you set it up like that? I don't seem to have the functionality of templates for T-shirts. Looks like a really good idea. Thanks Cheers! Scott PressuredArtOfficial store for Under Pressure merchandise I'm not tshirtfun, nor do I play her on TV! However, I have designed a few templates (see the GoodYear shirt or the blue "Hi! I'm..." shirt for examples). Essentially, you do it the exact same way you would for any other product (just change the text entry's "name" to one in square brackets; "[ name ]"). That of course assumes that you know how to do this for other product types...? I know there have been good tutorials written on this, I just don't have a handy-dandy pointer to one right now I could send you. I'm sure someone will chime in with one, though!
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Yeah, I do not understand the queastion, either.
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Oooh, oooh, Mista Cottah! (25 extra points to whoever gets the reference) I found the link for the templates! http://www.zazzle.com/mk/star/api/creating_product_templates_documentationThis is of course for Scott's benefit, and has nothing to do with the original subject (sorry). Enjoy!
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wilddeej wrote:sruhs wrote:Tshirtfun How do you set it up like that? I don't seem to have the functionality of templates for T-shirts. Looks like a really good idea. Thanks Cheers! Scott PressuredArtOfficial store for Under Pressure merchandise I'm not tshirtfun, nor do I play her on TV!  wilddeej... thanks for posting the zazzle instructions. sorry I wasn't here today to reply... but I brought a note from Epstein's mother (I'd like my 25 points please!) Scott... hopefully that explains it. It's very helpful to use for personalized designs, and you can help the customer by choosing the font style & color... like I did on this one... http://www.zazzle.com/wedding_tshirts/product/235529575373510591Try it out by putting your name in the boxes, it will appear right on the shirt. let me know if you have any other questions about it take care
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KRWDesigns wrote:I'm not sure what you're talking about. I put my designs on a lot of different products because diferent types of products appeal to different types of people.
Sometimes I have designs that apply to more than one of my shops, so I put it in both.
Also - I have a gallery that is just peoples' names, and since I create each of them as an image, it's not something that can done with a template.
Are you saying people are opening multiple shops and just creating one design over and over? Or are you just questioning why someone would put their design on mulitple items? Kerry - what I've seen a lot at the other place, and what they consider spamming, would be to have one white shirt after another that say something like "i love adam", "i love alan", "i love arnold", etc... through the whole alphabet with every possible name running into the thousands. That kind of thing isn't necessary with our template feature. Especially when they're just using regular black text. Having custom text & designs for personalization is definitely different.
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tshirtfun wrote:wilddeej wrote:
I'm not tshirtfun, nor do I play her on TV!
wilddeej... thanks for posting the zazzle instructions. sorry I wasn't here today to reply... but I brought a note from Epstein's mother (I'd like my 25 points please!) Up your nose with a rubber hose!  Just kidding - here's your 25 points <cha-ching!>. Don't spend them all in one place! Now, the question still remains as to exactly what artogram was talking about! Could be the situation you mention, which would be some serious spamming (and totally unnecessary, as you mention!) S/he couldn't be talking about the coatofarms shop (which is really prolific, by the way), could s/he? But, that's not spam! Must be something else...
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And 'Welcome Back Kotter'
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wilddeej wrote:Now, the question still remains as to exactly what artogram was talking about! Could be the situation you mention, which would be some serious spamming (and totally unnecessary, as you mention!) S/he couldn't be talking about the coatofarms shop (which is really prolific, by the way), could s/he? But, that's not spam! Must be something else... they could be referring to that gallery, since it has a record-breaking number of over 200,000 items... but due to the subject matter, it seems necessary to have that number of designs & products. The only way to reduce that number would be to use their outside website listing each design, and using the API to let the customer choose which product to put it on... KRW designs has done that on her website & it's so cool! Hope you don't mind the link Kerry (you did an awesome job on this!) - http://www.krwgraphics.com/create.htmMaybe artogram doesn't realize that they're all completely different designs. Kudos to the shopkeeper for the amount of work that went into that project!
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ohhh! ok - duh - I get it now. Sorry - can't even blame it on a blonde moment - I'm a brunette  Yeah - if it's just a basic text it's unnecessary. Though, it could be a case of someone who doesn't know about the whole template thing. I can easily see someone who finds Zazzle and just jumps right in with an idea without looking around and learning about all the tools. Especially if they assume it's just like CP. A note from Epstein's mother LMAO!!!!! That used to be my favorite part of the show. The notes were always hysterical. I just found that coat of arms shop. I did a search for my family name, out of curiosity and found a couple of items (because there are a few towns by that name) and suprisingly found a coat of arms. Very cool. t-shirt fun - thanks! I was so sure I was going to mess that API thing up - but after a bit of trial and error - I got it. Although - those designs do exist at my shop as well. I figured it was a good way to drive traffic from my graphic site to Zazzle - and I actually had my first sale from that on Wednesday! yippee!
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So, every dollar bill is "different design" because it has different serial number and occasional new signature from Secretary of the Treasury and color is never exactly the same. Nothing to be said for "similars"?
I want to thank the community for educational opportunity.
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Does it bothers you when people put an image on more than one item, or when they create work that is the same image in different color schemes?
I am still confused about what is bothering you. Apparently your speech is too intellectual for me.
I often will change color schemes on my designs because someone requests it. That actually happens very often. It is still my original work, and I have no problem doing that. I suppose I could tell them "No, take it as it is or don't take it", but if changing something makes them happy, I see no problem with it.
As for putting the same image on more than one item, well, the customer can’t change the item type themselves, so if I have the design on a mug and they want it on a shirt, then I have to put that there for them, they can’t.
Am I understanding you correctly? Maybe I don’t understand what you have said, if that is the case, I apologize.
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We shouldn't mix designs and products. I definitely agree that one design should be put on as many products as sensible. My initial post was about endless stream of "similars" that may appear to monopolize certain presentation venues and could be perceived as "boring" to somebody who expects greater variety and "surprise factor" as is usually the case.
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Okay, thank you for explaing I think I understand now.
I have wondered how one does that. It takes me time to post an item, and the chances of two of my items going up one right after the the other is rare...in fact if it has ever happened I was so busy I didn't see it. Yet I will look at the page of items just created and there are pages and pages from the same designer.
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it may be that they put them all in their in progress design first, until they have a particular batch ready, and then they just go in and publish them for sale. I've also had times where I had 2 windows open and creating items in both to get through a large scale project faster.
Myself, I never look at the what's new page, so I haven't noticed. I think the majority of customers come here with a specific idea in mind of what they want and they search for it, so I don't concern myself too much with pages like that. But that's just me.
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Oh see, I didn't think about that, I guess you don't HAVE to publish them right when you create them...ha ha ha ha. See, a little thinking goes a long way
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